[PRCo] Re: Cleveland PCC colors

Herb Brannon hrbran at cavtel.net
Tue Dec 7 00:37:06 EST 2010


Now that the photos have become visible I see we have three different shades
of each color. Like I said, there were just too many Kodak Brownie Cameras
in that era. Too bad we can't find out what happened to the standard guage
models Tom O'Toole had. They (according to him} were painted with paint from
the CTS Harvard Shops.
Like I said, I'll keep looking. I'm sure each photo is going to give a
different shade of color, however.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 00:31, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

> The first photo is a photo I had on my hard drive which is, of course, the
> Pullman model. The one labeled scan0001 is another Pullman and scan0002 is
> the St Louis Car Co model. The differences are subtle between the two
> models. Note the font and placement of the fleet numbers on each car and
> note the doors on the Pullman car as opposed to the doors on the St Louis
> Car model. Unfortunately, the photographic technology of the era in which
> these cars were photographed was not the best. I will look up other color
> photos tomorrow. I have hundreds of black and white pics but not that many
> color ones. If I can get in touch with Blaine Hays, I'm sure he has many
> color photos of the St Louis model PCC.
>
>  On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 23:06, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I want this to get to Herb Brannon-I am helping out George Huckaby of
>> Customtraxx and he in turn is working w/ Bowser Manufacturing to build an HO
>> model of the Cleveland PCC's-the ex-Louisville St Louis series, which per
>> Bill Vigrass were the best cars CTS ever had. I don't mean to stir that
>> dispute, but what we need are the exact colors of the cars in that very busy
>> two tone tan-or was it two tone yellow-or was it two tone orange?! Bob
>> Dietrich and I have been matching paint stirrers w/ model paint to the photo
>> in the CERA book Remember When on page 53 and to color prints of the St.
>> Petersburg model of the Pullman cars  w/  that presumably had the same paint
>> colors but coming close is a challenge. And then assuming that the colors
>> St. Petersburg Collection got-presumably they are correct, but... Then
>> matching colors to photographs is tough, since photo reproduction is not
>> consistent, so you see the dilemma. What we want to give George is a good
>> faith likeness of the colors,!
>>  preferably close to what the real colors were that would satisfy the
>> purists among the modelers and not be outrageously off the mark, and
>> preferably be close to an available model paint -either solvent based or
>> acrylic. The cream from the roof we got, but the others-such a to-do! Model
>> manufacturing per George is not what it was-now the manufacturer makes a
>> computer-generated 3-D rendering, applies the colors, sends the image to
>> China, and presto-chango, a few months later a painted shell prototype
>> arrives. Thanks Herb and apologies to all for a somewhat off-message
>> message. I simply dould not find Herb's email in my address book, but Bob D.
>> suggested you and it seems a good idea!
>> RICH
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>



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