[PRCo] Re: separation church and state

[John Swindler]

Somewhere I read not that long ago that this was to sever the government providing financial support to cover the Church of England's (Episcopal) payroll costs.    In the context of 1787, this was revolutionary.  I guess telling the Episcopal Church: 'you're on your own'.  I think the article also mentioned that at the time, there was a great concern that religious institutions might wither away.  




> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:14:45 -0700
> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: separation church and state
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> 
> Mr.Swindler,
> Thank you for speaking up with the truth;
> 'separation of church and state' is double
> speak and rewording of the original,
> definitely not a clarification.
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> 
>  Phil
> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
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> ________________________________
> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 12:03:23 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Guys night out
> 
> But that is not the phrase used in the First Amendment.  
> 
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
> 
> In the end, the results are about the same.  
> 
> Cheers
> John
> 
> > From: dwightlong at verizon.net
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Guys night out
> > Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:52:19 -0400
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > It is not in the Constitution itself.  It is in the First Amendment, part of 
> >the so-called "Bill of Rights,"  which by its adoption as an amendment (actually 
> >ten amendments adopted en masse) became part of the Constitution, though not of 
> >the original document.
> > 
> > Dwight
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: John Swindler 
> >   To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
> >   Sent: Saturday, 30 October, 2010 11:43
> >   Subject: [PRCo] Re: Guys night out
> > 
> >   Hey, Fred
> > 
> >   Where does it say separation of church and state in the Constitution??  Can't 
> >find that quote in my copy from the US Govt Printing Office.
> > 
> >   Perhaps you are referring to a comment from one of T. Jefferson's letters to 
> >a Baptist group.
> > 
> >   But that doesn't change the intent.  It was to break from the English 
> >practice of the government supporting the Church of England.  And at the time it 
> >was a revolutionary concept for a nation not to support an official religion.
> > 
> >   However often overlooked is Article 6, clause 3 which states that 'no 
> >religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public 
> >trust under the United States'. (this might be something with which you can have 
> >some fun)
> > 
> >   Cheers
> >   John
> > 
> >   > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Guys night out
> >   > From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> >   > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:42:15 -0400
> >   > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> 
> >   > 
> >   > Saw a great cartoon today of a politician who was asked why she didn't 
> >understand the first amendment to the constitution (separation of church and 
> >state), she said there were more important things to read and she couldn't read 
> >everything.   Next to her were comic books, and books on witchcraft.  
> >
> >   > 
> >   > Says it all, doesn't it.
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