[PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans

[Herb Brannon]

Yes, the 35foot models were the 1000s and 1100s. The 35footers had, pretty
much, the standard GMC 'New Look' seating arrangement. However, the 2100s,
2200s, and even the 2300s had the PCC "air car" seating arrangement. The
2300s had longitudinal seats on both sides of the aisle from the front to
the center doors. However, the 2100s and 2200s only had the longitudinal
seats on the "closed" (behind operators seat) side of the bus. These buses
also had (and I presume it was not a planned thing) an air compressor which
was very audible to persons standing along either side of the bus. They
sounded like a streetcar when standing at an idle. The air compressor would
go on and off, with a clicking and puffing sound, like something on a
conventional streetcar. These buses were for the Craft Avenue conversions. I
worked out of East Liberty division for several years. East Liberty was the
largest garage in the PAT system and housed all the routes from the former
Homewood, Herron Hill, Highland Park, and Craft Avenue car houses plus
several former independent bus operations.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 19:40, John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> The first purchase were the 2000 series and 1000 series, 102 inch wide in
> 40 and 35 foot length.  It was the 1100 series that came with the 2100 and
> 2200 series.  The 11s were 35 foot, 96 in width and I would frequently ride
> them on 41A.  They lasted a long time.
>
> What about the seats in front half of the 2100 and 2200 group.  Were there
> not some longitudinal seats?  I thought these were intended for Craft Ave.
> conversions.  But my memory is very foggy trying to go back that far.
>
>
> > From: hrbran at cavtel.net
> > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:16:14 -0400
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans
>  > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >
> > Speaking of destination signs. One interesting group of PATransit
> vehicles
> > were the 2100- and 2200-series GMC 40foot buses and their counterparts of
> > the 35foot model which I don't remember the fleet series numbers. I
> operated
> > these buses at East Liberty division. They came equipped with split
> > destination signs. These signs had the *route number and name* on the
> > curbside sign and all the *destinations* on the streetside sign. Also,
> the
> > curbside signs had the route numbers in both 'plain' and 'red diagonal
> > striped'. Very rarely could an operator use the 'red diagonal striped'
> > number/route name curtain unless a short-turn was ordered by the Traffic
> > Controller or a Route Foreman. These vehicles had extremely long
> curtains.
> > This was the first time I ever saw the designations for 71A Negley, 71B
> > Highland Pk, 71C Wilkinsburg, and 71D Hamilton. The signs also had the
> > 71/73/75/76 aspects. Interestingly, these buses were manufactured in the
> > late 1960s/early 1970s. Just a bit of Pgh transit trivia.   :-)
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 13:06, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > A number of PCC operators had split front destination signs.  The one
> > > (typically) on the left (as one faces the car) had the route name and
> the
> > > one on the right had the destination.  This was a better system for
> > > companies with a lot of cutbacks and alternate routings.  PRC tried to
> > > handle these by establishing separate route numbers, i.e. 43, 69, 55B,
> etc.
> > >  Not nearly as elegant a system as split signs!
> > >
> > > And, of course, it did not work on the interurban lines where, prior to
> > > 1953, there were no route numbers, just destinations--and they were not
> > > always properly displayed!
> > >
> > > Dwight
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > >  From: Fred Schneider
> > >  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >   Sent: Sunday, 31 October, 2010 11:12
> > >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Herb Brannon
> > > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park