[PRCo] Re: For HO model trolley fans

Thu Nov 4 08:56:59 EDT 2010

Mr.Long;

Apparently 1630 started life at Highland Car House:
http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/1630_73-Yd_New.jpg

Evidence suggests she went to Plummer from there before going to
South Hills.  While Plummer and Highland closed about the same time
there was much shifting of equipment in those days.  Consider that 1613
was pulled from Craft to be converted to an Interurban.  Photos reveal
1619 and others possibly at Plummer in service on the 94 as city cars
before conversion.  1646 as a city car was photographed on the 87.
It is thus possible that 1630 was shuffled to Plummer because of needs
before its South Hills foray.

Here is a beautiful photo after the monitor was removed:
http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/1630%2067%20OB%2019610416.JPG

The 10 or 11 trolley cowl applied to this car is 'allegedly' why the car was
rejected by Pat;  this hasn't been proven to my knowledge.

While 1724 is certainly an All-Electric, the 1600 as post War Demonstrator is a
stand alone car isn't it.  This is what is modeled by Bowser although the fan 
monitor
more closely resembles a 1700-series than the 1600.  I believe someone offered
beautiful Prc Ho brass 1700-series models some time back;  aren't Mr.Dietrich's
models from this group?

 Phil
Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'

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From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 6:57:59 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: For HO model trolley fans

But when it was retired, the monitor had been removed.
So technically you can have your St. Petersburg 1630 in
two configurations.   I think it was always a Tunnel car.

On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> While surfing the Russian site I realized Prc did have one air-electric
> with fan monitor;  it is shown here:
> http://www.sptc.spb.ru/photo/pittsburghcars/72b.htm
> 
> Phil
> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 9:40:51 PM
> Subject: Re: For HO model trolley fans
> 
> 
> I just remembered that the Russian firm has excellent "O" models of this car
> in two versions, the 2nd with a subtly different paint arrangement::
> http://www.sptc.spb.ru/photo/pittsburghcars/61.htm
> 
> http://www.sptc.spb.ru/photo/pittsburghcars/61-1.htm
> 
> 
> Phil
> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 9:33:55 PM
> Subject: Re: For HO model trolley fans
> 
> 
> Mr.Allman;
> 
> Trust your recovery was 200% successful and you haven't contributed to any
> more dents in transit infrastructure.
> 
> A technical correction to your post:  the Pittsburgh car is 'not air-electric' 

> but the
> post-war all-electric demonstrator 1600 lost in the Homewood fire of 1955.  It 

> does
> have standee windows.
> 
> 
> Possibly to lower costs of production the same body was used for all models 
>with 
>
> a few
> minor differences specific to the particular property included.  The catcher 
> below the
> windows, the Philadelphia style truck marker lights above the front destination 
>
> sign
> (PA Scale models did that;  did Bowser take them over?,) skirts cut out above 
> the trucks
> (a latter day feature on many properties,)  Philadelphia front window 
> arrangement,
> Philly style clearance panel on the body behind the front doors, identical 
> window
> arrangements, and flat folding doors on all cars are quite notable.
> 
> Pittsburgh does have a fan monitor but not the one used on PRC 1600 as seen 
> here:
>http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/1600%2055%20E%20Pgh%2019480606%20Styffe%20AW.jpg
>g
> 
> 
> Mr.Brannon:    I discovered by trial and error that file names with spaces can 

> sometimes
> cause trouble;  note the '$20' added in each space in your file name below.  I 

> was able to
> view your file by going to the photo archives for the list.  The file name 
>above 
>
> has the same
> but doesn't cause trouble;  it is not always easy to understand computers and 
> programs is  it.
> 
> I  attached a crop of Mr.Brannon's picture to show only JTC and Prc.  Let's see 
>
> how it comes
> through.
> 
> 
> Phil
> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 8:38:01 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: For HO model trolley fans
> 
>> photos are available on  Trolleyville Times 11/10 edition on-line.
>> ...  the one oddball Pittsburgh air car w/ roof fans,
> 
> RICH
> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:17 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] For HO model trolley fans
> 
>>> Bowser has come out with a new line of HO post-WW 2 PCC cars.
>>> They are ready to run and look good in the drawings.
>>> -- 
>>> Herb Brannon
>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
> 
> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PCC%20Postwar%201st.jpg