[PRCo] Re: PRCo Electric Shovel

[Jim Keener]

The Shovel says P R Co on it, I believe.

Jim

On 11/5/10 6:41 PM, Fred Schneider wrote:
> Pittsburgh Railways had its revenue passenger cars numbered from 1 to 6006 if I remember it off the top of my head.
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> Freight cars were numbered F1 to F9.
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> Miscellaneous cars (not maintenance but miscellaneous) were M1 and up. M1 for example was a pay car.   Most sweepers had two digit M numbers like M23 or M56.  The highest might have been some of the Differential dump cars such as M555.   
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> There were other oddities which never appeared in the usual rosters but were there such as the two rail grinders:  R55 and R59.
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> They also had other vehicles for which I've never seen tabulations:  motor cycles, staff cars, line trucks, pick up trucks, dump trucks, portable welders, and so forth.   I guess they had cement mixers and bull dozers.   Just because we have not yet seen pictures of every single item doesn't mean they didn't own it.    Remember that Pittsburgh Railways operated in an era when they did their own work; they had their own engineering department (car engineering was in Homewood in my lifetime, track and lines and inclines was on Sandusky Street on the North Side.  They designed what had to be done and their people did it. 
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> I think we also need to understand that Duquesne Light and Equitable Gas and Beaver Valley Traction Co. and Pittsburgh Railways Company were all parts of the same empire and we may not always be looking at a piece of machinery owned by the company we think owned it.   Who's to say that PRC did everything using their machinery and didn't borrow an excavator from the gas company?   
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> Fred Schneider 
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> On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Jim Keener wrote:
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>> Naïve question: were other MOW vehicles on the roster? or were they kept
>> separate from revenue cars?
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>> The shovel says 'No. 2', does that mean there are at least 2 shovels
>> (maybe not at the same time) or just the second piece of MOW equipment?
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>> Jim
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>> On 11/5/10 3:40 PM, BobDietrich wrote:
>>> I asked the question before and found it was not on the roster.  I've
>>> included another photo of it working in Homestead.  Note the contraption
>>> that it is riding on, who needs rails in the street?  I've started
>>> collecting parts to make a model of this critter so all the photos I can
>>> find will help.
>>> Russ, what search criteria did you use to find this?  
>>>
>>> Bob  
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Herb
>>> Brannon
>>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:24 PM
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Electric Shovel
>>>
>>> Interesting pics, Russ. Possibly Ed L or FWS would know if it is on the PRCo
>>> roster.
>>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:28, Russell Cashdollar
>>> <cashdollarr at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steuben Street August 26 1924
>>>> Pittsburgh City Photographer
>>>> Ed and Fred,
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>>>> Is this PRCo critter the "electric shovel" that is on The PRCo work car
>>>> roster?
>>>>
>>>> Russell
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