[PRCo] Re: PCC Left turn Smithfield to 6th!

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Sun Nov 14 00:43:20 EST 2010


Phil

It might have been more accurate to state that one 1600 series was outfitted as in interurban car (1613) to prove etc etc etc.

Whether the run was made in "comfort" is a whole nother matter.  

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phillip Clark Campbell 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, 13 November, 2010 21:18
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCC Left turn Smithfield to 6th!


  Mr.Lybarger;

  But of course;  and your response is one of the rare ones from
  a gentleman!  The errors are why I put an exclamation mark at
  the end of the Subject line.  I noted this was from the
  Blaine Hays collection;  it seems 'possible' he provided the
  'mis'information isn't it!  t is worth a few head shakes and
  chuckles as well.

  I searched for  'Blaine S. Hays'  and came up with a page of Pgh.
  photos credited to him:  http://tinyurl.com/BlaineHayes

  Looking at the descriptions on his pictures 'suggests' my hunch
  about him providing information is correct.  Note this one:
  http://tinyurl.com/1696-21-1966

  Isn't Mr.Hays reportedly working on a Prc book?  Isn't he in Cleveland?
  Some of the misinformation is understandable but calling a Trolley a
  'bus'  seems strange.  Comments about the Pat takeover seem to be in
  many of his photos as well.
  http://tinyurl.com/1747-64-1966

  "The 1600 Series were fully developed air cars and  the last air cars with
  no standee windows. Eleven of these cars were  outfitted as interurbans
  to prove that PCCs could make the long run  comfortably leading
  the way for the 1700 Interurbans."
  Of course they were 'air cars without standee windows!'
  http://tinyurl.com/1651-1967

  "Buses 1729 and 1560 crossing side-by-side."
  http://tinyurl.com/1729-1560

  The other misinformation is less glaring.  If Mr.Hays is working on
  a Pgh. book,  I have lost interest.

  There is another photo where 3-different car numbers are listed--
  one on the car and two in the text (this one is not Mr.Hayes:)
  http://tinyurl.com/1605-1506-1606


   Phil
  Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'





  ________________________________
  From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 7:07:58 PM
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCC Left turn Smithfield to 6th!

  There's a lot wrong with the identifying material accompanying
  this image.
  First, the car is turning from 6th Street onto Liberty Avenue.
  Second, it's attributed to the Pittsburgh Railways Company holdings.
  At that time, the railfan photographer called himself the
  "Pittsburgh Railways Company" and even had letterheads reading it.
  Third, the route was around long before 1940.  The University has
  been once again been misinformed...it's not part of the actual
  PRCo records.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
  Clark Campbell
  Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:06 PM
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  Subject: [PRCo] PCC Left turn Smithfield to 6th!

  http://tinyurl.com/1537-87-1965
  "View of PCC car 1537 making a left turn from Smithfield Street to 6th
  Avenue. 
  The 87 Ardmore route existed from 1940  to 1967. 
  It was discontinued as a result of Port Authority  modernization."

  Phil
  Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'



        






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