[PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question

[Ken and Tracie]

Personal, not personnel.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken and Tracie" <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:27 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question


> On July 4th, 1982, my girlfriend and I were sitting behind the motorman on 
> a
> 1700. His girlfriend had been occupying the "fan seat", but got up and 
> stood
> next to him. She bent over with her butt near our faces. To put it 
> politely,
> she had personnel hygiene issues and we retreated further back into the 
> car.
>
> Perhaps too much information, but I can imagine one of these cars packed
> with sweaty steel workers who came off duty and were riding home on a hot
> summer day.
>
> I took this photo from the back of the car after we looped Downtown and 
> were
> returning to Mount Lebanon:
>
> And yes, that's his girlfriend seated up front, in the dark blue shirt.
>
> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/pitt408.htm
>
> K.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:04 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>
>
>> K
>>
>> You might not have enjoyed riding in a PRC 1700 on the hottest days of
>> summer, particularly at rush hours and if there had been a light rain!
>>
>> Dwight
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Ken and Tracie
>>  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 00:30
>>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>>
>>
>>  I remember discussing the StLPS 1600s and 1700s outer appearance with
>> Fred
>>  the Third some years ago. I stated they appeared "bloated" in appearance
>>  from the front end, especially when using a smaller sealed beam
>> headlight.
>>
>>  Fred countered that the wider body was appreciated by the riding public
>> due
>>  to the increased interior room.
>>
>>  Too me, the best looking post war cars with standee windows were the 
>> last
>> of
>>  the Philadelphia cars, the Johnstown cars, the TTC cars and the Muni 
>> Baby
>>  Tens.
>>
>>  I also like the looks of the Pittsburgh 1700s and the Boston Picture
>> Window
>>  cars.
>>
>>  I prefer the Boston war time cars without the added roof monitors. I 
>> like
>>  any pre-war body St. Louis Car Company body with vents in the trolley
>> base
>>  cowl.
>>
>>  Just my personal visual  preferences...I enjoy riding any of them.
>>
>>  K.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
>>  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:29 AM
>>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>>
>>
>>  >I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful, but during the last
>>  >years of
>>  > the PCCs I came to appreciate the post-war front end was almost as
>>  > graceful when
>>  > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen. Unfortunately the 
>> post
>>  > war back
>>  > end drops straight down from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear
>> end
>>  > is my
>>  > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile than 
>> the
>>  > non-MU
>>  > variety because the couplers cut the lines off abruptly.
>>  > Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
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