[PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question

[Dwight Long]

K

That sounds quite grody! 

I have ridden through Homestead in the summer on Rt. 55 in a 1700 so am well aware of what you speak.  Talk about fragrant memories!

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken and Tracie 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 01:27
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question


  On July 4th, 1982, my girlfriend and I were sitting behind the motorman on a 
  1700. His girlfriend had been occupying the "fan seat", but got up and stood 
  next to him. She bent over with her butt near our faces. To put it politely, 
  she had personnel hygiene issues and we retreated further back into the car.

  Perhaps too much information, but I can imagine one of these cars packed 
  with sweaty steel workers who came off duty and were riding home on a hot 
  summer day.

  I took this photo from the back of the car after we looped Downtown and were 
  returning to Mount Lebanon:

  And yes, that's his girlfriend seated up front, in the dark blue shirt.

  http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/pitt408.htm

  K.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:04 PM
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question


  > K
  >
  > You might not have enjoyed riding in a PRC 1700 on the hottest days of 
  > summer, particularly at rush hours and if there had been a light rain!
  >
  > Dwight
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Ken and Tracie
  >  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 00:30
  >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >
  >
  >  I remember discussing the StLPS 1600s and 1700s outer appearance with 
  > Fred
  >  the Third some years ago. I stated they appeared "bloated" in appearance
  >  from the front end, especially when using a smaller sealed beam 
  > headlight.
  >
  >  Fred countered that the wider body was appreciated by the riding public 
  > due
  >  to the increased interior room.
  >
  >  Too me, the best looking post war cars with standee windows were the last 
  > of
  >  the Philadelphia cars, the Johnstown cars, the TTC cars and the Muni Baby
  >  Tens.
  >
  >  I also like the looks of the Pittsburgh 1700s and the Boston Picture 
  > Window
  >  cars.
  >
  >  I prefer the Boston war time cars without the added roof monitors. I like
  >  any pre-war body St. Louis Car Company body with vents in the trolley 
  > base
  >  cowl.
  >
  >  Just my personal visual  preferences...I enjoy riding any of them.
  >
  >  K.
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
  >  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:29 AM
  >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >
  >
  >  >I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful, but during the last
  >  >years of
  >  > the PCCs I came to appreciate the post-war front end was almost as
  >  > graceful when
  >  > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen. Unfortunately the post
  >  > war back
  >  > end drops straight down from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear 
  > end
  >  > is my
  >  > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile than the
  >  > non-MU
  >  > variety because the couplers cut the lines off abruptly.
  >  > Bill
  >
  >
  >
  >