[PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question

[Ken and Tracie]

She had her face right next to his as much as possible, but she sat down for 
street running and through South Hills Junction. Perhaps she kept her teeth 
brushed and her breath clean. But as I recall, we had thought she had been 
drinking.

There were other people on the car and she had made a remark about "all 
these people riding PAT on a holiday." Maybe she was bummed out that her 
boyfriend had to work and thought she and him would have the car to 
themselves.

K.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:45 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question


> K
>
> True, but her personal hygiene issues were offensive to the personnel 
> around her!
>
> Dwight
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Ken and Tracie
>  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 01:34
>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>
>
>  Personal, not personnel.
>
>  K.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Ken and Tracie" <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>
>  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:27 PM
>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>
>
>  > On July 4th, 1982, my girlfriend and I were sitting behind the motorman 
> on
>  > a
>  > 1700. His girlfriend had been occupying the "fan seat", but got up and
>  > stood
>  > next to him. She bent over with her butt near our faces. To put it
>  > politely,
>  > she had personnel hygiene issues and we retreated further back into the
>  > car.
>  >
>  > Perhaps too much information, but I can imagine one of these cars 
> packed
>  > with sweaty steel workers who came off duty and were riding home on a 
> hot
>  > summer day.
>  >
>  > I took this photo from the back of the car after we looped Downtown and
>  > were
>  > returning to Mount Lebanon:
>  >
>  > And yes, that's his girlfriend seated up front, in the dark blue shirt.
>  >
>  > http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/pitt408.htm
>  >
>  > K.
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
>  > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>  > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:04 PM
>  > Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>  >
>  >
>  >> K
>  >>
>  >> You might not have enjoyed riding in a PRC 1700 on the hottest days of
>  >> summer, particularly at rush hours and if there had been a light rain!
>  >>
>  >> Dwight
>  >>
>  >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >>  From: Ken and Tracie
>  >>  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>  >>  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 00:30
>  >>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  I remember discussing the StLPS 1600s and 1700s outer appearance with
>  >> Fred
>  >>  the Third some years ago. I stated they appeared "bloated" in 
> appearance
>  >>  from the front end, especially when using a smaller sealed beam
>  >> headlight.
>  >>
>  >>  Fred countered that the wider body was appreciated by the riding 
> public
>  >> due
>  >>  to the increased interior room.
>  >>
>  >>  Too me, the best looking post war cars with standee windows were the
>  >> last
>  >> of
>  >>  the Philadelphia cars, the Johnstown cars, the TTC cars and the Muni
>  >> Baby
>  >>  Tens.
>  >>
>  >>  I also like the looks of the Pittsburgh 1700s and the Boston Picture
>  >> Window
>  >>  cars.
>  >>
>  >>  I prefer the Boston war time cars without the added roof monitors. I
>  >> like
>  >>  any pre-war body St. Louis Car Company body with vents in the trolley
>  >> base
>  >>  cowl.
>  >>
>  >>  Just my personal visual  preferences...I enjoy riding any of them.
>  >>
>  >>  K.
>  >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >>  From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
>  >>  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>  >>  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:29 AM
>  >>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  >I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful, but during the 
> last
>  >>  >years of
>  >>  > the PCCs I came to appreciate the post-war front end was almost as
>  >>  > graceful when
>  >>  > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen. Unfortunately the
>  >> post
>  >>  > war back
>  >>  > end drops straight down from the roof line. The tapered pre-war 
> rear
>  >> end
>  >>  > is my
>  >>  > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile than
>  >> the
>  >>  > non-MU
>  >>  > variety because the couplers cut the lines off abruptly.
>  >>  > Bill
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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