[PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video

[Edward H. Lybarger]

There are certain disincentives to bad behaviour there!

They also charge different rates of toll on some of their roads depending on
the time of day. It's a disincentive to congestion, but it doesn't really
prevent overcrowding...just abates it somewhat.

And they didn't give me grief about chewing gum, either.  Then again, I
didn't throw it on the sidewalk when it was finished.

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Subject: [PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video






On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I've never seen anything as clean as Singapore.
> City...transit...countryside...airport...you name it.
> 

Litter, get caned!

> On the other hand, there are the birds that share the food 
> buffets...so clean may not always equal sanitary.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dwight Long
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video
> 
> Fred
> 
> That's an excellent, professionally-done, video.  Thanks for sharing!
> 
> I was struck by the superb condition of the open track.  Eat your hear 
> out, Pittsburgh Railways Co!
> 
> Also noticed was the fact that not all cars bore the dreaded Faively 
> "pantographs."  Real pantographs, bow collectors, and--gasp--actual 
> trolley poles still in use--wow!
> 
> Wattman--one who regulates the consumption of watts?
> 
> Now as to cleanth, would you venture a comparison with Singapore?  I 
> would think that it is the measuring stick these days.
> 
> Dwight
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Fred Schneider
>  Sent: Sunday, 03 October, 2010 20:18
>  Subject: [PRCo] A Great Brussels Museum Video
> 
> 
>  Thanks to Jack May who alerted me to this item ...
>  No it isn't Pittsburgh.   So what.   
> 
>  It is one rather interesting video of a Traction Extravaganza in Brussels
> using museum equipment.   Their local trolley museum has a feature that
who
> do us all proud.   The museum carbarn sits right on a major STIB line on
the
> Rue de Turvueren.   STIB operators who are museum members run the museum
> fleet on the outer end of city route 39 and 42 on Saturdays and Sundays.
> 
>  Their museum fleet is almost entirely former STIB equipment from
Brussels.
> I think they might have one Vicinal car in the museum.   But the video of
> the extravaganza shows all sorts of wonderous other stuff ... a red 
> car from Wien (Vienna) (thats 4038 with the Schottentor destination 
> sign), a gold and brown car from Rotterdam, a cream and green PCC from 
> the Hague, a Milan Peter Witt clad in yellow, and that fantastic Liege car
in two-tone green.
> They brought stuff in from all over.   
> 
>  For people who like running strange cars, the Liege car has a series 
> - series/parallel - parallel drum controller, i.e. three running 
> points:  (4 motors in series; 2 series pairs connected in parallel; then
all motors in
> parallel)  It goes like hell.   I rode it over that same track about ten
> years ago before it was sent to Liege for static display.  He left ahead
of
> one schedule car and before long had caught up its leader.   
> 
>  The interiors of Brussels cars are easy to pick out.   You will see some
> pictures views of a narrow PCC with do not talk to the motorman signs 
> in two
> languages:  Ne pas parler au Wattman (French) on the left ... and Niet
> ........ sparken on the right (Flemish).   The old rules used to be that
if
> you wanted a job driving a bus or a streetcar in Brussels, you had to
> bilingual or you simply were not qualified.   Can you imagine Dallas or
New
> York or San Diego or Los Angeles telling bus drivers they need to speak
> Spanish and English if they want to drive bus?   Or the bus drivers
serving
> Alhambra (CA) need Korean, Vietnamese, Spanish and English?   
> 
>  The final thing I want to draw your attention to ... look for the clutter
> and trash on the ground.   How much do you see?  Brussels is the capital
of
> Belgium, so why not compare the litter to our capital.   How does it
compare
> to Washington DC?      Now compared to most German cities, Brussels will
be
> dirtier.   Compared to Switzerland, Brussels will be a lot dirtier.   I've
> seen Swiss people walk a block out of their way just to throw a candy 
> wrapper in a trash can.
> 
>  Enjoy. 
> 
>  http://www.digitaletramfoto.nl/video/2010/201009/20100919-01.htm
> 
>  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Brussels_Tramway_Museum
> 
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