[PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans
Fred Schneider
fwschneider at comcast.net
Sun Oct 31 13:06:22 EDT 2010
The only time I rode it, the layover was at the loop. The motorman got out his broom, swept out the car, relaxed, and then headed north.
On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Long wrote:
> Fred
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> I owned a used interurban roll sign. Sold it many years ago. It had FINLEYVILLE on it but not Roscoe. I have never seen that indication, neither in person or in photos.
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> You are correct that the Elco loop was wholly within Roscoe. The borough line was hard by it. The operators (and John Baxter) called it "Elco." That's good enough for me. The layover point was in Roscoe, at Downes Store.
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> Dwight
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fred Schneider
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Sunday, 31 October, 2010 11:03
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans
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> I owned a brand-new PCC roll which I gave to PTM. It did not have ROSCOE on it. It didn't have FINLEYVILLE on it.
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> And remember, before we obfuscate this again, that the "Elco Loop," was not in Elco but wholly within Roscoe at the borough line.
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> On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Dwight Long wrote:
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>> Fred
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>> But there WAS in the PCC era, short turn service between Charleroi and Elco.
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>> Also, there was (inexplicably) a reading in the PCC interurban sign rolls of FINLEYVILLE.
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>> PITTSBURGH was a useful reading to distinguish cars going through. You are right, though, that it was used in the minority of cases. Motorman laziness, I guess.
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>> Dwight
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Fred Schneider
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Saturday, 30 October, 2010 19:09
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans
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>> What year?
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>> WASHINGTON
>> CANONSBURG
>> PITTSBURGH
>> CHARLEROI
>> RIVERVIEW
>> CASTLE SHANNON
>> LIBRARY
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>> After about 1952 two other signs were added for off peak service to distinguish local service in the non-rush hour periods
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>> SHANNON-WASHINGTON
>> SHANNON-CHARLEROI
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>> In 1953 you can add
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>> SHANNON-LIBRARY
>> SHANNON-DRAKE
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>> The Pittsburgh signs were seldom used. That would be like taking an 8-PERRYSVILLE sign and changing it to PITTSBURGH. Everybody was supposed to know an inbound car was going there. In the early years there were cutback like extra service between Washington and Canonsburg but that didn't happen in the PCC era.
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>> On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:44 AM, rayprco53 at verizon.net wrote:
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>>> Hello, I know this was posted before but I can't find it. Could someone repost the route destinations
>>> for the two interurban lines? I talking about the PCC roll signs.
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>>> Thanks
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>>> Ray
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