[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
Herb Brannon
hrbran at cavtel.net
Sat Dec 3 11:17:22 EST 2011
I am reading a book titled, "When Smoke Ran Like Water" by Devra Davis. The
book documents October 30 and 31, 1948 and what has come to be called the
Donora Smog Event.
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 09:43, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I think Herb was inquiring about the smog.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org [mailto:
> pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Jerry "Matt"
> Matsick
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 9:22 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
>
> Herb - Living in Donora from 1941 to 1959! Experienced Jones Low Floor
> cars and different PCC, plus seeing
> 3700 or 3800 series cars in operation.
> Jerry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 03:35:34 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
>
> Were you in Donora on October 30/31, 1948?
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 19:38, Jerry "Matt" Matsick <
> jerry.matsick at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Fred, not sure of the exact year, but around 1951 or 52?
> but it
> > was there, why would I some 60 years later still see it in my mind!
> > Jerry M
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Fred Schneider
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> > Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:14:05 -0000 (UTC)
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
> >
> > What year Jerry?
> >
> >
> > On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Jerry Matt Matsick wrote:
> >
> > > EYEWITNESS REPORT - this came up some time back, but as a youth
> > > living
> > in Donora and with a love for Street Cars, I witnessed a PCC coming
> > south into Donora, saw the car at 9th and McKean, now I was told that
> > > I was in error, but when you are used to the old Orange/Yellow cars
> > > that
> > operated in and out of Donora, when a
> > > RED and CREAM PCC comes to town you take note of it. I am an old man
> > now, but I know what I saw!
> > > Jerry Matsick
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Fred Schneider
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org, Dwight Long
> > > Sent: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:23:35 -0000 (UTC)
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
> > >
> > > Interesting. I have a picture of one of the PCCs on the Donora
> > > spur,
> > leading me to believe they went down to Donora and back after wying
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Dwight Long wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ken
> > >>
> > >> Yes, 1646 was the second car on this trip. It was used mainly by
> > members and guests of the Akron Railroad Club. The date of the trip
> > was 27 July 1952.
> > >>
> > >> Just to clarify matters, the side trip to Donora was done in
> > >> service
> > cars, 1700-series PCC to Black Diamond and DE Jones car from there to
> > Donora and back. This was in lieu of having lunch in Charleroi. The
> > wye at the Donora station was still in situ then, but I donât know
> > whether it was operable. Does anyone on this list know of any
> > enthusiast trips that used SE cars into Donora and turned on the wye?
> > >>
> > >> Dwight
> > >>
> > >> From: Ken and Tracie
> > >> Sent: Thursday, 01 December, 2011 12:36
> > >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> > >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive I have a
> > >> negative showing 1614 and 1646 on a fantrip. I believe I
> > posted on
> > >> this list some time ago. If you search this list's photo archive,
> > >> you
> > may
> > >> find it. If not, I can check my stored digital files or scan it again.
> > >>
> > >> K.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Herb Brannon"
> > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:28 PM
> > >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Does anyone on The List know "Tom O'Toole" ?
> > >>> I notice that just about all the photos were placed on that
> > >>> website by
> > Tom
> > >>> O'Toole in 2010 or 2011. I thought Tom O'Toole was no longer with us.
> > He
> > >>> used to run the "O'Toole Lines" model traction business out of his
> > house
> > >>> in
> > >>> Richmond Heights, OH. Is he still around?
> > >>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 21:40, Dwight Long wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Matt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There are other charter trip photos in that series, including
> > >>>> another
> > one
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> the July 1952 1614 trip, and one of the 1450 at Kennywood the day
> > after
> > >>>> service ended on Rt 68.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The shot of the PCC on "Roscoe Loop" is interesting. Note the
> > >>>> double
> > end
> > >>>> car entering the loop. Was this a tripper or a fantrip? PRC
> > >>>> called
> > this
> > >>>> loop "Elco Loop," although as Ed L. has pointed out, it was not
> > actually
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> Elco but just at the border between Roscoe and Elco and wholly on
> > >>>> the Roscoe side. The reason for the Elco name was to distinguish
> > >>>> it from the
> > Roscoe
> > >>>> stop, which was at Downes Store, a short distance north of the loop.
> > >>>> Downes
> > >>>> Store was, in addition to being the 1950s version of a
> > >>>> convenience
> > food
> > >>>> market, an agency station for PRC. Operators on this route
> > >>>> usually
> > took
> > >>>> spot time there, rather than at Elco.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dwight
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Barry, Matthew R"
> > >>>> To:
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:26 PM
> > >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Pittsburgh Railways Photo Archive
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> If I happened to send you folks this link before, I am sorry for
> the
> > >>>>> duplication. There is this part of me that seems to recall seeing
> > it
> > >>>>> before, however, I don't recognize several of the photos within.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > http://photos.cityrails.net/show/?order=byrail&page=1&key=Pittsburgh%2
> > 0Railways
> > >>>>> For instance, this one:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > http://photos.cityrails.net/showpic/?photo=201012172248198947.jpg&orde
> > r=byrail&page=4&key=Pittsburgh%20Railways
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Might this view be of the area on the 56 line, where Interboro
> > >>>>> Avenue is above the streetcar, and were the streetcar be headed
> > >>>>> in the opposite direction, it would soon be at the intersection
> > >>>>> of Interboro at
> > Mifflin
> > >>>>> Road?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Matt
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Herb Brannon
> > >>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> --
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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