[PRCo] Re: Washington Interurban Forensics

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Wed Dec 7 18:14:17 EST 2011


Ed

But did any of the open track siding on the Charleroi line use Nachods?

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:54 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Washington Interurban Forensics


> The first passing siding south of Drake was Cremona, and it was about a 
> mile
> south.  The grades at the location Bob photographed are inconsistent with
> those in the historic photo, as well.
>
> I believe the photo of 3761 was taken on the Charleroi route...I don't 
> think
> it went to Washington that day.
>
> Ed
>
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> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Bob
> Iannucci
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:09 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Washington Interurban Forensics
>
> Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
>> In the archives is a picture of an old car that no one on this list
>> can identify isn't there.  It is reportedly on the Interurban lines.
>> A PCC was also photographed at the same location.  It is tedious
>> trying to find the photo in the archives.  This looks like the photo
>> in the archives, again, location unidentified by anyone:
>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp009.htm
>>
>
> This is a really intriguing picture - I had never seen it before.  The lay
> of the roadbed behind the car, the direction of the track, and the 
> location
> of the poles match a location in Upper St. Clair, just southwest of the
> former Drake Trestle.   The area is now called Wiltshire Park.  Analysis 
> of
> old maps shows that a walking path in that park was once part of the 
> roadbed
> of the former Washington Interurban line.  On my trip to Pittsburgh this
> summer, I shot photos of that area.  The poles are long gone, but there is
> still pretty clear evidence of them on the right hand side (relative to 
> the
> direction in which the car in the picture is traveling) of the former
> roadbed.  The widening of the walking path in that area now corresponds to
> the passing siding we see in the picture from the 1940's.
> Can anyone say if there was a passing siding just southwest of the 
> Trestle?
> The area is overgrown now, but when I was growing up in Upper St.
> Clair in the 1960's, this area was just brush as in the 1940's photo.
>
> I've made up the attached for your review - to give you some context and 
> to
> invite analysis of these two pictures.  Were they shot at the same 
> location?
> At present, the evidence is somewhat thin.  Any information to prove or
> disprove this will be appreciated.
>
> If anyone can find the picture of the PCC taken at the same location (as
> mentioned above), I'd really appreciate it.  Also, I am looking for *any*
> photos of the former Washington interurban line in the area from Drake to
> the southwest edge of Upper St. Clair.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob
>
>
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