[PRCo] Re: Washington Interurban Forensics

Phillip Clark Campbell pcc_sr at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 8 11:29:43 EST 2011


Thank You Mr.Lybarger.
I question Allenport because of the PCC photo in the book;
our emals overlapped as I already mentioned this previously.

If it was Allenport the house would be right up against the
RR mainline -- certainly not unknown -- which then puts the
house between the RR and the Interurban.  Not enough is
visible to suggest the RR although the tree behind the house
would seem to be on the RR tracks wouldn't it.


 
Phil



________________________________
 From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Washington Interurban Forensics
 
This photo location is the point at which the line comes back onto the
street heading south into Houston.  Banfield Siding was a very short
distance north of this spot; Alexander, which replaced Banfield in 1938, was
farther north yet and wasn't close to houses or a major street.  Banfield
wouldn't have been there when the photo was taken.

I'm sticking with "3761 SB at Allenport Siding" for the other one unless
there is conclusive evidence against it.

Ed

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
Clark Campbell
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:53 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Washington Interurban Forensics

Mr.Lybarger;

I was aware of the single track south of the substation; I also knew there
wasn't a siding with a street behind it like the photo.  I didn't make that
clear.  I am unclear where prw started south of Ashland Avenue.

Wasn't there a siding at Alexander which used to be at Banfield?
There would be intermittent street all the way through Houston.
Grant Street was not paved but it was a street so assume Nachod signals
here.  I lived in Charleroi but rode the Washington interurban on occasion.

I believe this photo is somewhere between Ashland and Arnold:
http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/M0555%20Wash%20OB%20Houston%201950xxxx%20Unk.jpg
Could you please indicate the precise location?

This photo was relatively easy to find with an appropriate file name; so
many names are totally random.

With 3761 we have a photo on a known system which remains unidentifed.  The
topography changes considerably with time; cutting the Grant St hill
considerably is evidence.  Perspective over 100-years, different lenses on
cameras, different depth-of-fields etc. can be fooling.  Trying to identify
the E-McKeesport photo was anything but orderly and methodical -- start with
the "givens" and then rule-out.  It takes field work, not hunches.
 
Phil




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