[PRCo] Re: Allenport?

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Very nicely stated Mr.Lybarger; isn't this always the case.
We miss the forest for the trees or some such.  What is
hitting us in the face that we refuse to recognize?
It is not the 38A but this does raise a possibility--is it somewhere
else on the system?  The photo of 1707 in the identical location
'seems' to rule this out doesn't it.

How did you determine the exact date for this photo?  For that 1952
charter I see that both 3769 and 3761 were used.  The regular
revenue car, 4387, was used from Black Diamond to Donora.

The confusion with this photo of approximately 60-years ago
in far more familiar territory underscores my frustration with the
solid refutation of the 105-year E-McKeesport photo and some
claiming they are quite familiar with the area.  We are missing
important elements in both photos, even known and rejected
elements to identify location.

 
Phil




________________________________
 From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Allenport?
 
I stand corrected.  New Switch indeed became Mapleview.  And the railroad
crossing was just north of it.

But the trolley and the highway are not in the same relationship in the
photo and at Mapleview.

I continue to have a feeling about this photo that I've had for years...that
I'm overlooking something obvious.

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
Clark Campbell
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:54 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Allenport?

Thank you Mr.Lybarger;
Photo #-3 is then "Mapleview" and not "Allenport" as labeled in the first
PCC book.  This apparently rules out where 3761 was photographed.

But!  You mention a RR crossing; there should be one at Mapleview - first
siding south of 5th-Street siding in Charleroi.

The pea-soup is getting thicker Mr.Lybarger!  The configuration of the road
(in both photos -- 3761 and 1707 #-2) seems to fit the road north of
Mapleview.

There also seems to be some confusion on New Switch and alternate name. 
Please see enclosed.

 
Phil

http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/RoscoeToNewSwitchSchematic.jpg