[PRCo] Re: Nachods, Etc.

Derrick Brashear shadow at gmail.com
Tue Dec 27 16:51:11 EST 2011 


Derrick

On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> Herb
> 
> I have photos of it.  However, they are on slides and I would have to dig 
> them out and scan them.  And then Ecartis would not let me send them with 
> the email.
> 

Ecartis won't pass it through, but at no point does it preclude you from sending anything.

Yes, I'm a nitpicker

> If this is of importance to you, I'll try to find the relevant slides and 
> send a scan to you directly rather than through Dementix.  Let me know.
> 
> Best of my memory is that it was hard by the cemetery.
> 
> Dwight
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:04 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Nachods, Etc.
> 
> 
>> Dwight,
>> Do you remember how far down the hill that meet occurred?
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 18:00, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>> 
>>> Can't comment on the New Arlington Avenue incident, but back in the 60s I
>>> was on an enthusiast tour which included Rt 65.  We were proceeding north
>>> and received a clear aspect on the Nachod.  The southbound service car 
>>> got
>>> a
>>> red aspect but ran it, as the operator knew he was the only car on the 
>>> line
>>> on Sunday!  His explanation related to the general unreliability of
>>> Nachods.
>>> 
>>> Fortunately the near "cornfield meet" was on a stretch where there was 
>>> good
>>> visibility.  Ironically it occurred adjacent to the local graveyard!
>>> 
>>> Dwight
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 4:35 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Nachods, Etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thank you, Mr.Josephson; nice description. It is easy to
>>>> associate signalling with interurbans but nachods were
>>>> extensively used on the city system as well weren't they.
>>>> Two that spring to mind immediately are the 49 and 65 lines.
>>>> The latter was predominantly bi-directional single track with
>>>> passing sidings. The 49 had significant single track--on Climax
>>>> between the loop and Beltzhoover as well as the long stretch
>>>> on New Arlington. All this was controlled with Nachods.
>>>> Mr.Brannon has written about experience with Nachods here.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/bvp140.htm
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/bvp141.htm
>>>> 
>>>> Other South Hills lines using Nachods include several different
>>>> sections of the 40, the single track at the loop on the 39, and even
>>>> the 38A.
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp111.htm
>>>> 
>>>> The 1 & 5 lines used single track at their junction as double track
>>>> would not fit; then the outer portion of the 5 was single with a siding
>>>> and loop, all Nachod controlled. The 4-line used single track and a
>>>> 
>>>> siding to the outer loop.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 2 & 3 both had single track at their respective loops. The nearby
>>>> 94 also had single track and a siding at the outer end to the loop.
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp076.htm
>>>> 
>>>> The intersection of California and Brighton Place was single track
>>>> because of narrow streets. The 6, 7, 10, 13, and 14 all used this
>>>> 
>>>> location controlled by Nachods. The 6-line also had single track to
>>>> the outer loop--almost a repeating theme isn't it--but the 6-lacks
>>>> a siding.
>>>> 
>>>> The 18, 19, 20 were double track but non-clearance on some curves.
>>>> These "may" have included Nachods. Many non-clearance curves
>>>> are simply line of sight on a simple turn but where the devil strip
>>>> narrowed for a distance nachods were possible. While turns were
>>>> double track the devil strip was significantly reduced on the 64 and 67
>>>> in many places, some using nachods. The 67 also had a small
>>>> portion of single track outbound of Rankin.
>>>> 
>>>> Neville Island had extensive single track and not a few sidings with
>>>> Nachods. The outer end of the 23 before crossing the Ohio was
>>>> single track prw.
>>>> 
>>>> The 27 and 28 used Nachods on the famous "S" turn under the PRR
>>>> while the outer end of the 28 was purely single track with 2 sidings
>>>> and a loop once PCC service began. I assume the intersection of
>>>> Steuben and Noble was Nachod controlled.
>>>> 
>>>> The 55 used Nachods to control the single track in the flood control
>>>> zone near E.Pgh didn't it. The 58 had a significant section of single
>>>> track with multiple curves. The much liked Trafford was single track
>>>> with 5 sidings--one rather long across the trestle--and a loop. This
>>>> was nachod controlled. Near the end many of the sidings were not
>>>> functional but one assumes it was still Nachod controlled. While
>>>> only a single franchise car operated a trip or two each day other
>>>> equipment like charters could be on the line so signalling is needed.
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp196.htm
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 68-line had a portion of multiple curve single track in Duquesne.
>>>> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp078.htm
>>>> 
>>>> Plummer and 47th used a single track intersection from the Car House
>>>> to double track on both streets probably nachod controlled.
>>>> 
>>>> Both the Donora and Washington local lines had considerable single
>>>> track controlled by nachods, much not shared by the interurbans.
>>>> 
>>>> Somewhere on the internet is a photo of two opposing cars meeting on
>>>> New Arlington. Car 1684 was one; it was on a charter in Pat days. Only
>>>> one revenue car was needed for service who apparently thought the
>>>> red signal was a failure so he proceeded. The photo is labeled wrong
>>>> indicating 1684 as the service car. I can't find it; maybe someone has
>>>> that photo or knows its location.
>>>> 
>>>> Please add to, clarify, or correct the above. It is interesting to note
>>>> all
>>>> this nachod controlled territory.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Phil
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Ken and Tracie <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: SCOTT GREIG <m1903a1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Cc: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Nachods, Etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott,
>>>> Here's that signaling chapter from the 1920s technical book I 
>>>> mentioned.
>>>> I'm
>>>> "cc'ing" these quick scans to the Pittsburgh Faithful as the PRCo
>>>> interurbans used Nachods on some stretches and West Penn used a manual
>>>> signaling system in places.
>>>> 
>>>> Merry Christmas,
>>>> 
>>>> K.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Herb Brannon
>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>> 
>> 
>> 
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