[PRCo] Re: PRCo Charleroi CH track

[Dwight Long]

Herb

My earlier surmise was made before the wealth of photos showed up.

I now agree that what Ed says is the most logical explanation.

Dwight

From: Herb Brannon 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December, 2011 13:34
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Charleroi CH track
>From all the other photos and commentary it appears they used double
overhead, not a "feeder" wire. Ed has the best explanation.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:38, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I am not sure I understand your observations.  These tracks
> appear in maps and many photos don't they.  The photographer
> is facing south.  Donora locals leave and return to the yard using
> this track.  As the Car House was used as 'part' of a siding the
> northbound interurban left the Car House to continue its trip to
> Pittsburgh using these tracks.
> The gantlet overhead is only at the barn for shop usage as shown
> by the enclosed photo.  The dual contactors in the other wire reveal
> the track is unidirectional for the siding; interurban 1719 turning
> into the barn is doing so as part of its revenue run.  There is another
> photo somewhere showing a PCC Interurban leaving the yard from
> the Car House back onto the main using these very tracks isn't there.
>
>
> Charleroi housed Interurbans over night so they could go to Roscoe
> on pullout.  Those cars pulling in the previous evening from Roscoe
> would be facing north--all interurbans are SE--how did they turn
> them to be ready for service going south?  Several ways:  NB car
> goes straight thru instead of turning into the yard, throws the point
> (which
> may need plugged if it is a spring return switch to insure it is always
> set correctly for service,) place the trolley pole on the gantlet wire,
> then
> back around the barn to the ladder track on the north side of the yard.
> There are other more involved ways.
>
> This then begs: how do the interurban cars leave the yard to head
> south?  'I am told' with US&S signals a car can use either side of a
> siding and all signals shall set correctly. Prc always operates to the
> right
> through a siding--if a car needed to use the left track thru the siding
> all signals still set correctly -- all opposing signals go to red as the
> car enters
> single track.  I am not sure iff nachods operate this way as wiring from
> the
> contactors seem more dedicated.  If the nachods have a parallel operation
> to US&S style control then the cars can be parked to leave the barn on
> the northbound 'siding' track in the barn.  Otherwise the interurbans need
> to back out on the ladder track in the picture you supplied, then head
> south
> making sure the trolley is on the correct wire to activate the contactors
> for
> the nachods.
>
>
> The Car House was not always used as a siding was it.  One of the tracks on
> the south was added for the siding, most likely the curve 1719 is using.
> Mr.Phillips sent me drawings of this if I can find them.  I don't remember
> the
> date of the addition.  Otherwise, as Mr.Lybarger indicates, the track here
> remained essentially as built.
>
> I would hazard a guess that the siding in the Car House was instituted
> after
> the West-side cars quit service.
>
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: "Lattner, Raymond" <rlattner at pa.gov>
> To: "pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:25 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Charleroi CH track
>
> Hello, I was reviewing the latest  Charleroi PRCoTPTrackMaps and noticed
> there was
> no mention of any tracks at the front end of the Charleroi Car House that
> lead to the left (see attached pic) as you are looking at the CH.
> Any idea about this track or tracks?
>
> Regards
>
> Ray
>
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park