[PRCo] Re: Tunnel Picture

Herb Brannon hrbran at cavtel.net
Sat Feb 12 13:09:58 EST 2011


That's what I said yesterday.
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:46, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Mr.Schneider,
> I wondered similarly but there are a number of items which
> seem to contradict aren't there.  The crossover looks well
> beaten, not like one recently installed for temporary work.
> Note the appearance of a wood plank walkway adjacent to
> the inbound 44 tracks;  planks form a sidewalk to cross the
> track as well.  Additionally, the inbound 44 tracks were
> already removed and the switch was replaced with regular
> rail.  Part if not all of the tunnel was already paved; this is
> quite clearly open T-rail.  The mouth of the tunnel was rebuilt
> as rectangular as well.  Here is a photo showing some
> construction:
> http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?14294
> Car 1616 was redone as 1776 several years before 1976.
> Here is a photo dated 1977 which suggest construction is finished:
> http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?40050
> That massive entrance for ventilation was in place in 1976 or 1975;
> it drastically alters the appearance here and would certainly alter
> the outline in a picture from within.  Here is another photo which
> shows that construction well:
> http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/pitt124.htm
>
> Car 3776 was painted like new for the 1976 celebrations; it
> would seem to show better in a photo although the quality of
> this photo is not the best.
>
> I have seen other photos which confirm the wood plank walkway;
> I am trying to find those.  These are taken from outside the tunnel.
>
> Additionally this photo was discussed here before; included is a
> larger photo which I saved from the Url attached to that email.
> The photo is in the archives for this list but I can't find it;
> I changed the file name to suit the photo.  The discussion at the
> time indicated this was the 1940s.
>
> I doubt someone would 'concoct' or forge such a photo; what purpose
> would it serve?
>
>
>  Phil
>
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>        * To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>        * Subject: [PRCo] Re: Tunnel Picture
>        * From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>        * Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:08:28 -0500
>
> Car 3756 was borrowed from the museum and operated for
> perhaps a week downtown in the 1970s.    The tunnel was
> single tracked for paving for the busway in April 1975
> but the pictures I took show outbound cars on the inbound
> track crossing back over to the normal outbound track
> outside the mouth of the tunnel.   The link shows a
> crossover inside the portal of the tunnel.
>
> Wonder if it is concocted?
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Ray wrote:
>
> > Hello. I found this on webshots.  Can anyone elaborate on the
> > possible year this is and what looks like a crossover before entering
> > the tunnel?
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ray
> >
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> > -- Attached file removed by Ecartis and put at URL below --
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> > -- Size: 22k (22885 bytes)
> > -- URL :
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> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/webshots14%20tunnel.jpg
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> -- Attached file removed by Ecartis and put at URL below --
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> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Inside-S-PortalSHJJones-1940s.jpg
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Herb Brannon
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