[PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars

Edward H. Lybarger trams2 at comcast.net
Wed Jan 5 10:54:04 EST 2011


But they tell us we're so exceptional that ordinary rules don't apply in
this country.  How large a 2x4 is needed to get their attention? 

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
Long
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:19 AM
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars

Fred

That is more of an economics lesson than a political speech!

Dwight

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Fred Schneider
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, 05 January, 2011 05:56
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars


  It was set at 65 back before World War II, if you mean Social Security,
because the average life expectancy at birth then was about 67.   They
expected to pay off on very few people.    They did not expect it to rise
into the middle 80s.   

  The problem with setting it and forgetting it is simple.   We expect it to
become a perk.   Look at French rioting when they ran out of money to pay
for retirement at 60.   

  It needs to be something reevaluated when we each of us begin our working
lives based on actuarial tables then.   

  Sorry about that political speech.   


  On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:28 PM, John Swindler wrote:

  >
  > There's a reason retirement age was set at 65 - I can feel it.  My
advice to everyone else - stay young.  
  >
  >
  >
  >> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
  >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars
  >> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:24:36 -0500
  >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >> 
  >> ACF-Brill and Marmon-Herrington trackless trolleys.   My god are they
names out of the past, you gray haired old codger.   I remember riding them
in places like Columbus and Wilmington and Philadelphia and Nawlins. and
seeing them in Milwaukee and Chicago and Johnstown.   And who made those TCs
I rode in Brooklyn.   Gee there were also some weird center steering wheel
Pullmans in Atlanta that I rode.   
  >> Safe to tell this story now because the company is dead and the big
boss is dead and it is just a real estate shell corporation today.  And back
when I was in college, there was a night man for Conestoga Transportation
who worked with me at Sears Roebuck.   On several occasions after the store
closed I would go into the garage with him.   He would work the pump rack
fueling buses.    I would pull them into the garage and park them for the
next day and then walk back to the pumps and get the next bus.   I had my
share of fun with old look GMs and ACF Brills from the driver's seat.   
  >>
  >> Do we have gray hairs John?
  >>
  >>
  >> On Jan 4, 2011, at 7:16 PM, John Swindler wrote:
  >>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Worse yet, that 5700 was a Flxible.  I drove their predecessor - Twins
in the 52-5300 series.
  >>>
  >>> Also had a lot of fun taking Marmon and ACF-Brill trackless for a spin
around Chicago.  And I even got paid for it!!!
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
  >>>> Subject: [PRCo] 2011 Calendars
  >>>> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:29:37 -0500
  >>>> CC: j_swindler at hotmail.com
  >>>> To: Pittsburgh-Railways at Dementia.Org
  >>>> 
  >>>> Here are a couple of calendars for 2011 that are floating around in
cyberspace.   The first is the Kenosha trolley group's PCC calendar
featuring some of their cars and some of the San Francisco equipment:
  >>>>
  >>>> http://kenoshastreetcarsociety.org/Documents/2011PCC%20Calendar.pdf
  >>>>
  >>>> Next we have the 2011 Chicago Transit Authority Historic Calendar.
  >>>>
http://www.transitchicago.com/assets/1/miscellaneous_documents/2011_CTA_Hist
orical_Calendar.pdf
  >>>> 
  >>>> I suspect John Swindler will have the same feelings when he looks at
the November page that I have when I run 1711 at Arden.   How can that
possibly be old enough to be historic or a museum piece?   I have those
issues with 1711 because I can remember my dad handing the supplement to the
Pittsburgh Press across the dinner table to me in 1948 that announced the
arrival of the 1700s.   And John worked his way through college driving
those propane buses in Chicago.   John, are you on Derrick's address list?
If not, you should be......
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