[PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars

[John Swindler]

Why would anyone jump off a building during the 1930s?  Insignificant.

Try polio, lack of blood pressure medicine, no heart bypass operations,  poor control diabetes, poor control infections, etc.  

Weighing against that, today we kill people at younger ages with automobiles.

As for gun shot deaths, New York registered some 550 last year.  But industrial accidents were higher back then.  How about the RR?

I guess all that can be said is that times change.





> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:28:22 -0500
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
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> And it should be over 70 if we were to be anywhere near what was being practiced in 1938.....
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> I wonder how much of the lower age in the 1930s was caused by people jumping off buildings?   Probably fewer than the gun shot / cocaine / drug war deaths today.   The big difference in the 1930s was probably a much higher incidence of deaths per high vehicle mile than today.
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> On Jan 5, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Herb Brannon wrote:
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> > FYI: SS has upped it to 66 for 100% benefits for those born between 1943 and
> > 1954.  The 100% option then increases the age to collect that option by two
> > months (for each year) for birth years between 1955 and 1959. For those born
> > in 1960 and later the age to collect 100% SS retirement benefits is 67. **
> > **Source: Social Security Administration, Table of Social Security Benefits
> > by Birth Year.
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> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 05:56, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:
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> >> It was set at 65 back before World War II, if you mean Social Security,
> >> because the average life expectancy at birth then was about 67.   They
> >> expected to pay off on very few people.    They did not expect it to rise
> >> into the middle 80s.
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> >> The problem with setting it and forgetting it is simple.   We expect it to
> >> become a perk.   Look at French rioting when they ran out of money to pay
> >> for retirement at 60.
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> >> It needs to be something reevaluated when we each of us begin our working
> >> lives based on actuarial tables then.
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> >> Sorry about that political speech.
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> >> On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:28 PM, John Swindler wrote:
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> >>> There's a reason retirement age was set at 65 - I can feel it.  My advice
> >> to everyone else - stay young.
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> >>>> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 2011 Calendars
> >>>> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:24:36 -0500
> >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
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> >>>> ACF-Brill and Marmon-Herrington trackless trolleys.   My god are they
> >> names out of the past, you gray haired old codger.   I remember riding them
> >> in places like Columbus and Wilmington and Philadelphia and Nawlins. and
> >> seeing them in Milwaukee and Chicago and Johnstown.   And who made those TCs
> >> I rode in Brooklyn.   Gee there were also some weird center steering wheel
> >> Pullmans in Atlanta that I rode.
> >>>> Safe to tell this story now because the company is dead and the big boss
> >> is dead and it is just a real estate shell corporation today.  And back when
> >> I was in college, there was a night man for Conestoga Transportation who
> >> worked with me at Sears Roebuck.   On several occasions after the store
> >> closed I would go into the garage with him.   He would work the pump rack
> >> fueling buses.    I would pull them into the garage and park them for the
> >> next day and then walk back to the pumps and get the next bus.   I had my
> >> share of fun with old look GMs and ACF Brills from the driver's seat.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Do we have gray hairs John?
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> >>>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 7:16 PM, John Swindler wrote:
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> >>>>> Worse yet, that 5700 was a Flxible.  I drove their predecessor - Twins
> >> in the 52-5300 series.
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> >>>>> Also had a lot of fun taking Marmon and ACF-Brill trackless for a spin
> >> around Chicago.  And I even got paid for it!!!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> >>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] 2011 Calendars
> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:29:37 -0500
> >>>>>> CC: j_swindler at hotmail.com
> >>>>>> To: Pittsburgh-Railways at Dementia.Org
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Here are a couple of calendars for 2011 that are floating around in
> >> cyberspace.   The first is the Kenosha trolley group's PCC calendar
> >> featuring some of their cars and some of the San Francisco equipment:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> http://kenoshastreetcarsociety.org/Documents/2011PCC%20Calendar.pdf
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Next we have the 2011 Chicago Transit Authority Historic Calendar.
> >>>>>> 
> >> http://www.transitchicago.com/assets/1/miscellaneous_documents/2011_CTA_Historical_Calendar.pdf
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I suspect John Swindler will have the same feelings when he looks at
> >> the November page that I have when I run 1711 at Arden.   How can that
> >> possibly be old enough to be historic or a museum piece?   I have those
> >> issues with 1711 because I can remember my dad handing the supplement to the
> >> Pittsburgh Press across the dinner table to me in 1948 that announced the
> >> arrival of the 1700s.   And John worked his way through college driving
> >> those propane buses in Chicago.   John, are you on Derrick's address list?
> >> If not, you should be......
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> > -- 
> > Herb Brannon
> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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