[PRCo] Re: F Market GPS

[Dwight Long]

Fred

Or perhaps back then the late, lamented "Pittsburgh Press,"  which as a youth I delivered, earning enough to make a small contribution to the acquisition and moving of WP 832, as well as ride it on its trips from Charleroi to Ingram and Ingram to Arden!

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fred Schneider 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Monday, 11 July, 2011 11:08
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: F Market GPS


  Sounds like a great way to read the Post Gazette.


  On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:

  > At PRCo and PATransit it was/is termed "Car On Time or Coach On Time
  > depending as to streetcar or bus. Times when I worked the extra board I
  > always enjoyed a "COT Car". At Library we would pull into the spur and at
  > Drake we would pull into the short piece of track just before the beginning
  > of the old bridge over Drake Road. There was just enough room to put a car
  > into the former main line at Drake. When a Library car was running late I
  > would pull back onto the main (loop) track, reset and plug the switch for
  > the curve, then leave on the late cars time. I knew what car to look for as
  > did the operator of the late car. When we met we stopped and exchanged cars.
  > Then I took the late car to Library Loop, discharged the passengers, backed
  > north again to clear the switch, set the switch for the old main, now a
  > spur, reset and plugged the switch and waited for the next late car. Drake
  > operated the same way using the old mainline spur to hold the COT car until
  > needed. Resetting and plugging the switches had to be done properly to
  > prevent a derailment at both locations. At Clearview Loop if it was during
  > the times that the 42/38A (Shannon extension) was NOT running then I would
  > set the COT car on the 38A track just clear of the switch at the car stop.
  > If it was during the operating hours of the 38A then I waited at the "back"
  > of Clearview Loop. As ON TIME cars arrived I just let the on time operator
  > take the COT car and I took his/her car. I would keep trading cars until a
  > LATE arrival was reported. Then I left on the late cars time and met up and
  > exchanged cars again then back to Clearview Loop to exchange and wait for
  > another late car. Buses were done in the same manner only without the track
  > work involved with the streetcars.
  > When I worked at Capital Metro in Austin I suggested the COT system and they
  > started a version (similar to the Harrisburg plan) where a couple buses were
  > held at S. Lamar Blvd & Barton Springs Road, downtown, and then sent to
  > start the outbound trips of late buses. The driver exchange occured and the
  > COT driver brought the late bus into downtown Austin then went back to the
  > waiting area for another assignment.
  > 
  > COT systems work nicely.
  > 
  > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 15:40, John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com> wrote:
  > 
  >> 
  >> That's why PRC had 'put on time' cars.  (is that official name???)  One
  >> location was Jane St. loop for route 76 in pm peak.
  >> 
  >> CAT in Harrisburg is considering stationing an extra driver and bus at 7th
  >> and Dock St. in pm peak.  This has been discussed with Tom Collins, which is
  >> a name Fred will recognize from high school.
  >> 
  >> Cheers
  >> John
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >>> From: dwightlong at verizon.net
  >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: F Market GPS
  >>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:34:16 -0400
  >>> 
  >>> Fred
  >>> 
  >>> It's an old Pittsburgh expression regarding PRC service disruptions.
  >> David H. Hamley ought to remember it--he used it often enough. So should
  >> Rick Hannegan.
  >>> 
  >>> Dwight
  >>> 
  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> From: Fred Schneider
  >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >>> Sent: Saturday, 09 July, 2011 22:25
  >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: F Market GPS
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> I never thought of grapes also coming in bunches. :<)
  >>> 
  >>> Years ago it was Boston that had such lax supervision that a friend of
  >> mine coined the term banana dispatching.
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:18 PM, Dwight Long wrote:
  >>> 
  >>>> Fred
  >>>> 
  >>>> Is that a tropical version of the grape method?
  >>>> 
  >>>> Dwight
  >>>> 
  >>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>>> From: Fred Schneider
  >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >>>> Sent: Saturday, 09 July, 2011 13:45
  >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: F Market GPS
  >>>> 
  >>>> 
  >>>> I see that today, just like the last time I looked at this, Muni is
  >> still using that ever dependable banana system of dispatching.
  >>>> 
  >>>> 
  >>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Ray wrote:
  >>>> 
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> http://www.nextmuni.com/googleMap/googleMap.jsp?a=sf-muni&r=F#
  >>>>> 
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  >>>>> One of the wonders of GPS.
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  > -- 
  > Herb Brannon
  > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
  > 
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