[PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" - Cleveland ETB's

Bob Rathke bobrathke at comcast.net
Sun Mar 13 16:29:35 EDT 2011


Attached are a couple of photos I took in Cleveland  in July, 1958 on  CTS electric trolley bus route 3: 



- ETB 897 on Superior Ave. near E. 43rd St. 



- ETB x68 on Superior Ave. near E. 35th St.  I have been able  to identify only the last two digits of the number of this ETB.  I'm not too familiar with trolley buses - can anyone offer a guess at the full number? 



Bob    




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From: Ken and Tracie <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com> 
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 1:53:03 PM 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos 

A number of us raised money to rescue Milwaukee's last revenue electric 
transit vehicle (Pullman-Standard trackless trolley 350.) The coach had been 
kicked around to several organizations which did not really care about it 
since 1965. We raised over $4,000 to save it and IRM voted to preserve it, 
though some members complained that it would serve the museum better as a 
parts source. 

It is a 1948 Model 45 CX. It is the ONLY "preserved" Model 45 CX . 

They have an early Milwaukee Twin Coach and a later model Milwaukee 
Marmon-Herrington which are safe (for now.) The excuse we hear is that they 
need to stricken the 45 CX from the roster and dismantle it because they 
already have two other "1948" Pullman-Standards, one, a 1949 from Cleveland, 
the other, a 1947 from Dayton. The latter two, however, are both the rather 
common Model 44CX. 

They have two identical Dayton 1977 Model E-800 Flyers , two identical 1937 
Chicago Model T40S Brills and two identical 1951 Chicago Model TC49 
Marmon-Herringtons. 

If they do not wish to save the Milwaukee 45 CX, that is their choice. But 
so much Milwaukee transit equipment, both rail and rubber-tired, has been 
lost since the 1950s. And a number of us have either worked on that 
equipment and/or contributed money to preserve and restore it. I am a bit 
disillusioned by IRM's decision, though I can see objective reasoning for 
scrapping the coach. 

Overall, however, I must say, "preserved" Milwaukee area transit equipment 
has faired better in Illinois than in Wisconsin. 

K. 



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