[PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Tue Mar 15 12:33:59 EDT 2011


Ken

So did some Denver TCs.  So I may have (unwittingly) seen and maybe even fotted an Indy TC in DF!!

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken and Tracie 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2011 13:43
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos


  Hi Dwight. None. All went to Mexico City during 1964.

  K.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:21 AM
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos


  > Ken
  > Is any of the preserved Milw TC stock of former Indianapolis ownership?
  >
  > Dwight
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Ken and Tracie
  >  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  Sent: Sunday, 13 March, 2011 13:53
  >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos
  >
  >
  >  A number of us raised money to rescue Milwaukee's last revenue electric
  >  transit vehicle (Pullman-Standard trackless trolley 350.) The coach had 
  > been
  >  kicked around to several organizations which did not really care about it
  >  since 1965. We raised over $4,000 to save it and IRM voted to preserve 
  > it,
  >  though some members complained that it would serve the museum better as a
  >  parts source.
  >
  >  It is a 1948 Model 45 CX. It is the ONLY "preserved" Model 45 CX .
  >
  >  They have an early Milwaukee Twin Coach and a later model Milwaukee
  >  Marmon-Herrington which are safe (for now.) The excuse we hear is that 
  > they
  >  need to stricken the 45 CX from the roster and dismantle it because they
  >  already have two other "1948" Pullman-Standards, one, a 1949 from 
  > Cleveland,
  >  the other, a 1947 from Dayton. The latter two, however, are both the 
  > rather
  >  common Model 44CX.
  >
  >  They have two identical Dayton 1977 Model E-800 Flyers , two identical 
  > 1937
  >  Chicago Model T40S Brills and two identical 1951 Chicago Model TC49
  >  Marmon-Herringtons.
  >
  >  If they do not wish to save the Milwaukee 45 CX, that is their choice. 
  > But
  >  so much Milwaukee transit equipment, both rail and rubber-tired, has been
  >  lost since the 1950s. And a number of us have either worked on that
  >  equipment and/or contributed money to preserve and restore it. I am a bit
  >  disillusioned by IRM's decision, though I can see objective reasoning for
  >  scrapping the coach.
  >
  >  Overall, however, I must say, "preserved" Milwaukee area transit 
  > equipment
  >  has faired better in Illinois than in Wisconsin.
  >
  >  K.
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
  >  To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >  Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:15 AM
  >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos
  >
  >
  >  > Thank you, Mr.Josephson, very nice photos,
  >  > even the 'Byrd.'  At least he is smiling isn't he.
  >  > That might not have good implications.
  >  > Are you implying that the coaches at IRM are
  >  > being cut up for parts?  Do they have other
  >  > Milwaukee coaches?
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > Phil
  >  >
  >  >
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  >  >
  >  > ________________________________
  >  > From: Ken and Tracie <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>
  >  > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  > Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 10:41:13 AM
  >  > Subject: [PRCo] "West Pittsburgh" Preservation Photos
  >  >
  >  > I believe these were taken by IRM member Randy Hicks.
  >  > Beautiful job. Please forgive my cynicism, but it's fortunate this
  >  > particular Pullman-Standard isn't a Milwaukee trackless trolley, or it
  >  > would
  >  > be cut up for parts.
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