[PRCo] Re: Pittburgh Railway Company Map Draft

[John Swindler]

Just a couple items:
 
The 67 was rerouted in vicinity of Braddock and Penn Lincoln parkway - original rails still visible in old Braddock Ave. next to supermarket north of the parkway.
 
There were rails on Center St. in Wilkinsburg.  At one time was told it was for 76 Hamilton; cars with 76 Hamilton-Jane St. were an extension to Jane St. loop.  
 
Early on, there were rails on Euclid and St. Clair from East Liberty to Highland Park.  Probably a second company trying to serve the park.  Also early on there were rails north side of Monongahela from Glenwood Br. to Rankin Br.  And south side on Carson St. to Glenwood Bridge.  In early years latter cut back to 36th St., and later years cut back to 30th St. loop.  These are shown in some of the early plat maps.
 
Also a realignment of 57 Glenwood off of 2nd Ave. east of Greenfield to eliminate B&O grade crossing.   
 
Thank you for all the work at putting these maps together.
 
Cheers
John

 

> From: stephen at titchenal.com
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittburgh Railway Company Map Draft
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:27:36 -0500
> 
> This version of the map is for a forthcoming book on the Pittsburgh Railway
> Company and will be printed as an overview map. At this time I am most
> interested in corrections that are obvious at the current resolution. The
> book deadline is fast approaching, and street level detail is not needed.
> Once I have finalized the map, I will post a slightly higher resolution
> version of the digital elevation layer.
> 
> The original data is in various GIS formats and in various stages of
> completion when you get to the street level of detail. At some point in time
> I will look at how to make the various layers available in a consumer GIS
> such as Google Earth. Some layers are rather large in file size and will
> probably need to be shared via a DVD and copied to a hard drive for speedier
> display.
> 
> I occasionally place updated kml (Google Earth) versions of the route paths
> in the "My Places" area of Google Maps. I have made them shareable so you
> can add them to your personal Google Maps "My Places" area. Google Maps does
> not organize a large number of paths very well, but they display in the
> smart phone version of Google Earth. This allows you to go in the field and
> explore.
> 
> http://maps.google.com/maps/user?uid=204661335735556483333&hl=en&gl=us
> 
> If you save the map to your own "My Places" area of Google Maps, you can
> view them in the smart phone version of Google Earth.
> 
> You can also view the paths in the personal computer version of Google
> Earth. Be sure to check for and reload any updated version. Unfortunately my
> path naming organization is lost in this shared version. Hopefully Google
> Maps will eventually support folder organization.
> 
> At "street level" these paths still need a lot of work and organization. The
> tricky part is changes to trackage and street location over time. Various
> layers also have different levels of geographic accuracy, making street
> level comparisons less than exact. I am struggling with how to manage these
> types of changes in a useable way. The more you research at this level of
> detail, the more questions you end up with. It is a never ending project.
> 
> I am indebted to members of this mailing list, Ed Lybarger (Pennsylvania
> Trolley Museum Archive), and various sources of historic maps for the
> research so far. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Herb
> Brannon
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:11 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittburgh Railway Company Map Draft
> 
> I had no problem with the layers loading.......everything came up on the
> screen in a second or two. I too, however, have the problem of lost detail
> when zooming in on a specific area to check detail. Will streets be labeled
> in future drafts?
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:04, <eskuchas at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you. A great way to visualize why lines were routed as they were. Is
> > there a file with a higher background resolution? I enlarged some areas to
> > look at details an I lost resolution.
> > Ed
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Titchenal" <stephen at titchenal.com>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:47:53 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Pittburgh Railway Company Map Draft
> >
> > I have posted a draft of a geographically correct map of the Pittsburgh
> > Railway Company and surrounding area at its peak in the early 20th
> Century.
> > The background digital elevation image is low resolution to keep the
> > document size reasonable while in draft form. Because of the number of
> > vector layers, it may take awhile to load in Acrobat Reader. You can use
> > the
> > layer navigation panel to turn individual layers on and off.
> >
> > http://railsandtrails.com/pdf/index.html
> >
> >
> > A number of list members have helped me trace some of the lines shown.
> > Thanks for all your help.
> >
> > I would appreciate any feedback on missing or misplaced lines. I have not
> > tied the map to a specific date, but tried to show lines that were in
> place
> > at anytime in the early 20th Century.
> >
> > A couple of questions:
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> > 1. I assume the WP Oakdale and McDonald line followed Noblestown Road
> > between the named cities. Where did it end in each city?
> >
> > 2. Did the WP enter Brownsville on 6th Ave and take Market to about 3rd
> > Ave?
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> -- 
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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