[PRCo] Re: Ebay PRCo Roll Sign

Edward H. Lybarger trams2 at comcast.net
Mon Nov 21 11:35:48 EST 2011


The 300-series cars did not have rollsigns as built, but when they were
rebuilt to arch-roof cars, rollsigns were added.  The high 200s had
rollsigns from the beginning (but still used dash signs), but lost them when
the cars came to the Coke Region in 1938.  There is no evidence that the
200-224 series ever had anything but steel dash signs.

Ed 

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Schneider
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:27 PM
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: Ebay PRCo Roll Sign

I did not search e-bay for that item number.    Therefore I have no idea if
they are interurban destinations (Washington, Canonsburg, Charleroi,
Riverview, Castle Shannon, Pittsburgh) or signs appropriate to the Tylerdale
carhouse from a 4200 or 4300 (East and West, North Washington,
Jefferson-Maiden, Fair Grounds).

The statement that West Penn never used linen signs is, however, not
entirely correct.   West Penn city cars in some services did have standard
roll signs.  The 300 series cars, the 286-297 series as built, and 298-299,
all of which operated in McKeesport, and all of them had roll signs.   I
think I have seen a 300 in Connellsville with a roll sign.   

The city lines in Greensburg went early enough that I have only seen one
picture of a 200 series Stephenson car with a sheel steel sign.   



On Nov 20, 2011, at 1:34 PM, robert netzlof wrote:

> --- On Sun, 11/20/11, Ray <rayprco53 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: Ray <rayprco53 at verizon.net>
> 
>> Hello, could someone offer an
>> opinion as to authenticity of this ebay item?
>> Destinations are 6 inches high and 23 inches wide.
>> 
>> If authentic any idea what series car this is from?
>> 
>> 1930s West Penn Railways Interurban Trolley Cloth Vellum Sign Roll 
>> PITTSBURGH
>> 
>> Item number  370560781338
>> 
> Not West Penn. West Penn used metal plates hung in a rack on the front of
the car. Color coded for each route, as well as listing the stops on that
route.
> 
> The destinations/routes appear to be in Washington PA, where West Penn
didn't go.
> 
> As to authenticity for the Pittsburgh Railways Washington service, I have
no idea.
> 
> Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
> 
> 
> 







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