[PRCo] Re: 'maybe' not East McKeesport

[George W. Gula]

> The below is edited from a couple emails; I was describing, writing,
> and reasoning when "a" conclusion was reached which negated
> my opening paragraphs.  I did not edit those; they still contained
> basic info for the day.
> 
> 
> Enclosed is a copy of the museum map, not the whole, just a
> piece -- credit is given -- my apologies if I violate any law, ethics,
> statute, ordinance, etc.
> 
> The photo has a very real possibility of being near the Highland
> Grove Traction Company line visible on the enclosure.  The line
> 
> starts from the 68-line trestle, east side of the Monongahela,
> 
> and heads north in a zig-zag fashion doesn't it.
> 
> This was 105-years ago -- a century and five years ago.  Had no
> human set foot thru that area in 105 years we would not
> recognize it today if a past photo were available.  Nature itself
> changes considerably with time.
> 
> To be blunt:  it is one thing to question all items but another to
> throw out the baby with the bath water isn't it.  To casually dismiss
> the reference to East McKee we might as well conclude the whole
> 
> is photoshopped and this is obviously the middle of the FL everglades.
> 
> I can not make a positive identification; obviously no one else here
> is able as well.  But given all evidence at hand -- the photo, the
> note about E-McKee, and the map -- this is undoubtedly the
> best fit suggested to this point.
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
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> http://lists.dementix.org/mlist/pittsburgh-railways/2011-11/msg00074.html
>>> From: John Swindler
>>> 
>>> We can only speculate on how well the photographer
>>> remembered the location when he got around to
>>> identifying the pix.
>>> http://lists.dementix.org/mlist/pittsburgh-railways/2011-11/msg00064.html
>>>> How about "east of McKeesport"???
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> http://lists.dementix.org/mlist/pittsburgh-railways/2011-11/msg00071.html
>> From: Phillip Clark Campbell
> 
>> When the double track line nears McKeesport there is another single
>> track line parallel (to the west) following the curve of the  > nMonongahela
>> to the bridge over the Monongahela that was WP
>> used by the 68.  All this just NW of the Pirl St. Loop where the
>> double track line from Wilmerding joins the McKeesport line. > I submit that
>> what Mr.Swindler indicates as E-McKeesport is possibly
>> in this area and the "Highland Grove Traction Company" that operated
>> the single track line connecting to WP 'may' be the one in the photo.
>> This location allows for RR tracks. > This location north east of McKeesport
>> proper 'may easily fit' the photo
>> here.  This is an interesting challenge and discussion; all contributions
>> are highly informative and reasonable.
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I'm pretty familiar with the McKeesport-East McKeesport area and this seen
doesn't look like anything in McKeesport, Duquesne, the Mon Valley, East
McKeesport or Wilmerding. Too rural. Highland Grove and East McKeesport
never had railroad operations and no trolley line ran along the Mon River on
the McKeesport in the area being disputed. If it is in the Pittsburgh area,
could this be part of the trackage between Second Avenue and Rankin Mill?

George Gula