[PRCo] Re: Ebay Trolley

[Fred Schneider]

Appears that Bruce Wells and Bill Fronczek visited the hulk of MWP car 30 in Waverly WV last fall.

Waverly is betwixt Williamstown and St. Marys.   Got that?   No?   Well it was a tank stop on the Best and Only.   Williamstown was across the river from Marietta.   Waverly is about five miles up stream.   

Not all of the crossings were at grade, Herb.   The Acme Street crossing out in the far northeast (and that was integral to the Putnam - 5th line because it was run as one long loop) was a timber bridge over the tracks.
The present crossing of Franklin Street in West Marietta (the old village of Harmar) is at grade but there were some underpasses at one time on the west side.  I am not sure what the clearances are on the Muskingum and Ohio River Bridges.

I suspect that the more important issue might simply be that "we had our overhead designed for lower cars."  

But remember that those cars had to be built to get under things not just in Marietta.   The principal shops were in Parkersburg, West Virginia.   You don't buy something you cannot run 15 miles to the repair shop because it won't fit under something in route.   




On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:

> I checked the Marietta track map and did not see anything which would cause
> the trolley line to go under a bridge or through a tunnel on the Putnam/5th
> line. The car in the photo is signed up for Putnam/5th. Most, in fact all
> except for two railroad/trolley grade crossings are just that, crossings at
> grade. Only two on the map could be underpasses, however they are
> completely across town from the Putnam St and 5th St area. Maybe they just
> had very low overhead. Low overhead would not be good for all the grade
> crossings I noted on the map.
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:19, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> Very nice work, Mr.Brannon!
>> Trolley wire is extremely low.
>> I wonder if there is an underpass
>> one side or the other.
>> 
>> Phil
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:40 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Ebay Trolley
>>> 
>>> Here is No. 30 operating in Marietta in the 1920s. According to "West Penn
>>> Traction", CERA # 110, c1968, page 113, ...."The Parkersburg and Marietta
>>> city lines saw Cincinnati single-truck curved-side cars delivered in 1924,
>>> and later supplemented with double-truck curved-siders brought over from
>>> the Clarksburg division."
>>> In the eBay advertisement the picture of the A.W. Maginnis drawing (June
>>> 28, 1967) of the cars indicates three (3) cars numbered 30, 31, and 32
>> were
>>> in that 1924 order.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Marietta%20No%2030.jpg
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> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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