[PRCo] Re: Arlington/New Arlington

[Dwight Long]

Herb

Well, that would explain why most all the folks I knew when I was living 
near da Burgh referred to it as New Arlington Ave.  They were mostly all PRC 
employees or tram enthusiasts!

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Arlington/New Arlington


>A PERSONAL OBSERVATION ON THE USE OF "NEW" PRECEDING PITTSBURGH STREET
> NAMES:
> Purely through personal observation, upon moving to Pittsburgh in 1972 and
> beginning work with PATransit, I noticed that the word "New" was attached
> to several street names by the training instructors. I was trained by
> former PRCo Training Instructors who still followed the tried and true
> methods of PRCo training. Apparently, it was a "PRCo thing" to place the
> "New" onto streets which had been relocated for one reason or another, or
> streets which had been reconstructed. I remember New Arlington of course,
> and also New Liberty (the Gateway Center portion), New Centre (the Lower
> Hill realignment), New Penn (the E Liberty rebuilding to bus only) and a
> couple more. This was a common thing done by all the former PRCo Training
> Instructors. To me it was another thing, such as the Yellow Over Green
> traffic signal aspect, which made Pittsburgh Someplace Special.
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 21:03, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Fonda J Hollenbaugh
>> <violets13 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > This has nothing to do with Josephine Street. At the turn of the last
>> > century, what is now Arlington Avenue began at the intersection of 
>> > South
>> > 18th Street and Brownsville Road at the Pittsburgh/Mt. Oliver line.
>>
>> Yeah. Where was the other end? 27th and now-Josephine.
>>
>>
>> http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?view=entry;cc=maps;entryid=x-20090626-hopkins-0012
>>
>> In 1916 (revised 1922 and 1928) both had their old names, as well
>> http://digital.library.pitt.edu/maps/16v06ind.html
>>
>> By 1932, Brownsville was Arlington (not New Arlington here)
>>
>> http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?view=entry;cc=maps;entryid=x-003e1932
>>
>> And by 1938, old Arlington was Josephine (no earlier map available in
>> this series)
>>
>> http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=maps_id;op2=And;rgn2=maps_so;c=maps;q1=030*;q2=Topographic;back=back1334624699;size=20;subview=detail;resnum=1;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=maps;entryid=x-030e1938;viewid=030E1938.TIF
>>
>> > From the
>> > intersection of present day Carson Street & Arlington Avenue to the 
>> > above
>> > mentioned intersection the street was called Brownsville Road. The 
>> > Route
>> 49
>> > Beltzhoover car was known as Route 46 Brownsviile even though it did
>> > eventually wind up in Beltzhoover. By 1946, the road had been renamed 
>> > to
>> > avoid confusion that drivers must have experienced with the right had
>> > continuation of Brownsville Rd in Mt.Oliver. The street had become New
>> > Arlington Avenue.
>>
>> And old Arlington had become (more of) Josephine. I have to assume
>> this was not a coincidence.
>> In any case, my only point is "New Arlington" seems related only in
>> that "old Arlington" also went down the hill
>> and then no longer did.
>>
>> --
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>
>
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