[PRCo] Re: 4366 on Nevergreen

[Herb Brannon]

Here is a line from a website about Pittsburgh Rlwys Co.:
"1954 witnessed only one outright abandonment, with North Side route 12
Evergreen closing in February."
Here is a table from a website called "eNotes" which shows a start date in
'08 and an end date in '59:
12 Evergreen Road via East Street  1908
1959[<http://www.enotes.com/topic/Pittsburgh_Railways#cite_note-per-20>The
table in the booklet, "The Street Railways of Pittsburgh, 1857 - 1959" by
T. E. Parkinson, lists the following: 12-Evergreen - Feb 54 as the closing
date.

Makes one wonder about how accurate any history books, about any area's
history, really are. Why are several PRCo Rt 12 sources indicating Feb 54?

Now to the semantics of "abandonment" versus "last day of service"........

Who are "We" ?
>From Mr. Webster:::::
a-ban-don -- to give up; forsake; to give in to emotion -- . a-ban-don-ment
n.

Nothing was given up, forsaken, or given in to until December 6. To say
".....last day of scheduled (or) revenue service...." then that would be
December 5.

I'm sticking with December 6 for Rt. 12 "abandonment". "We" can say it
however "they" want.


On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 08:45, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:

> Re abandonment dates:  We try to cite the last day of scheduled service as
> the termination date.  In the case of Route 12, that was Saturday, 12-5-53.
> December 6 was the first day without the trolleys.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Herb
> Brannon
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:49 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4366 on Nevergreen
>
> For what it's worth:::::
>
> *1946 PRCo Guide Routing:
>
> 12-Evergreen
> Evergreen Rd at City Line, Inbound to East St, North Ave, Sandusky St,
> Robinson, Ninth St Bridge, Ninth, Penn to Seventh; Outbound via Seventh,
> Seventh St Bridge, Sandusky, North Ave, Madison, East St, Evergreen Rd to
> City Line.
> RUNS RUSH HOURS ONLY
>
> All other times from East St at Evergreen to City Line and return to East &
> Evergreen only.
>
> *
> Also the book Pittsburgh Railways, by R Beal, indicates the line abandoned
> 6 December 1953. The last car operated on Rt 12 was 4393 and it was also
> the
> last  double-end car in regular service on the PRCo system.
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-- 
Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park