[PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366

[Dwight Long]

Herb

The car used to transport the Arden workers back to the Golden Triangle =
on 7 February 1954 was 4393.  This was the last car on Evergreen, 6 =
December 1953.  It had been in storage at Keating CH prior to this trip. =
 I do not know if it came to Arden directly from Keating or if it was =
staged at Tunnel Car House prior to the 7 February run.

Here is a shot which shows 4393 at County Home siding at Arden on that =
day.  Sorry that the car is rather obscured by 3756 in the foreground, =
but it is the only shot I have of 4393.

I hope this clears up all the questions on this matter.

Dwight

From: Dwight Long=20
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February, 2012 16:51
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org=20
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366

Herb

I have the answer but not where I am now.  Have to go thru old files at =
home=20
to provide it.

Remind me tomorrow when I am off work and I will get it for you.

Dwight

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
To: "Pittsburgh Railways Group" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:26 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366


> No takers, eh ??
> I found another photo of Rt 12-Evergreen in the publication titled
> Pennsylvania's Street Railways by Benson W. Rohrbeck. There is a color
> photo taken at the end of the 12-Evergreen line. The caption in the
> Rohrbeck book reads, "Car 4386 at the end of Route 12, Evergreen, July =
6,
> 1952. The photo is credited to Andrew D. Young. HOWEVER, if you look =
at=20
> the
> photo the car is NOT 4386, it IS 4366.
>
> Again, what was the last car running regular revenue service on
> 12-Evergreen???
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>
>> In the original photo which was taken on the Seventh St bridge shows =
the
>> Greyhound Silversides bus and PRCo car #4366 with the 12-Evergreen
>> destination sign. Somewhere in the email chaos which followed PRCo =
car
>> #4393 was "crowned" as the last car to run on the 12-Evergreen line. =
Was
>> this indeed the case or was #4366 the last to run on 12-Evergreen?
>>
>> I have a list of PRCo Car House Assignments dated 1/1/1952 which =
shows
>> 4393 assigned to Glenwood CH. It also shows 4366 assigned to Keating =
CH.=20
>> In
>> the book, Pittsburgh Railways Vol I, by R Beal, the section on Rt
>> 12-Evergreen has two photos of car #4366 running that line. One of =
the
>> photos is labeled, "#4366 on East St.". However, it looks more like =
North
>> Avenue inasmuch as what looks like old Allegheny General Hospital is =
in=20
>> the
>> background at the same angle it would be on North Avenue. The =
destination
>> sign shows 12-Evergreen and the car number (4366) is showing. The=20
>> location
>> (either North Av or
>> East St) is moot to my discussion, however. The photographer is one
>> Clifford Scholes. The second photo of #4366 is labeled, "#4366 at end =
of
>> line (PHB&NC connection)". The car number clearly shows 4366 and the
>> destination sign reads 12-Evergreen. No credit is given to a=20
>> photographer.
>> Unfortunately no dates are given for either photo.
>>
>> Again, would the last car, Rt 12-Evergreen,  have been 4366 or did =
4393
>> get transferred from Glenwood to Keating?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Herb Brannon
>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>>
>
>
>
> --=20
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>
>
>=20





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