[PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366

[Dwight Long]

Herb

Sorry, I can’t help you with that.  I only have the same one you have, from 1952.

I thought you wanted to know what car made the last run on 12 and later went to Arden.

Dwight

From: Herb Brannon 
Sent: Thursday, 16 February, 2012 07:30
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366
I would rather see some PRCo vehicle assignment sheets. I'm leaving for
Pittsburgh in the next hour. Be back later this evening.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:14, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:

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> The car used to transport the Arden workers back to the Golden Triangle =
> on 7 February 1954 was 4393.  This was the last car on Evergreen, 6 =
> December 1953.  It had been in storage at Keating CH prior to this trip. =
>  I do not know if it came to Arden directly from Keating or if it was =
> staged at Tunnel Car House prior to the 7 February run.
>
> Here is a shot which shows 4393 at County Home siding at Arden on that =
> day.  Sorry that the car is rather obscured by 3756 in the foreground, =
> but it is the only shot I have of 4393.
>
> I hope this clears up all the questions on this matter.
>
> Dwight
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> From: Dwight Long=20
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 February, 2012 16:51
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org=20
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366
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> Herb
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> I have the answer but not where I am now.  Have to go thru old files at =
> home=20
> to provide it.
>
> Remind me tomorrow when I am off work and I will get it for you.
>
> Dwight
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> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: "Pittsburgh Railways Group" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:26 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366
>
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> > No takers, eh ??
> > I found another photo of Rt 12-Evergreen in the publication titled
> > Pennsylvania's Street Railways by Benson W. Rohrbeck. There is a color
> > photo taken at the end of the 12-Evergreen line. The caption in the
> > Rohrbeck book reads, "Car 4386 at the end of Route 12, Evergreen, July =
> 6,
> > 1952. The photo is credited to Andrew D. Young. HOWEVER, if you look =
> at=20
> > the
> > photo the car is NOT 4386, it IS 4366.
> >
> > Again, what was the last car running regular revenue service on
> > 12-Evergreen???
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
> >
> >> In the original photo which was taken on the Seventh St bridge shows =
> the
> >> Greyhound Silversides bus and PRCo car #4366 with the 12-Evergreen
> >> destination sign. Somewhere in the email chaos which followed PRCo =
> car
> >> #4393 was "crowned" as the last car to run on the 12-Evergreen line. =
> Was
> >> this indeed the case or was #4366 the last to run on 12-Evergreen?
> >>
> >> I have a list of PRCo Car House Assignments dated 1/1/1952 which =
> shows
> >> 4393 assigned to Glenwood CH. It also shows 4366 assigned to Keating =
> CH.=20
> >> In
> >> the book, Pittsburgh Railways Vol I, by R Beal, the section on Rt
> >> 12-Evergreen has two photos of car #4366 running that line. One of =
> the
> >> photos is labeled, "#4366 on East St.". However, it looks more like =
> North
> >> Avenue inasmuch as what looks like old Allegheny General Hospital is =
> in=20
> >> the
> >> background at the same angle it would be on North Avenue. The =
> destination
> >> sign shows 12-Evergreen and the car number (4366) is showing. The=20
> >> location
> >> (either North Av or
> >> East St) is moot to my discussion, however. The photographer is one
> >> Clifford Scholes. The second photo of #4366 is labeled, "#4366 at end =
> of
> >> line (PHB&NC connection)". The car number clearly shows 4366 and the
> >> destination sign reads 12-Evergreen. No credit is given to a=20
> >> photographer.
> >> Unfortunately no dates are given for either photo.
> >>
> >> Again, would the last car, Rt 12-Evergreen,  have been 4366 or did =
> 4393
> >> get transferred from Glenwood to Keating?
> >>
> >>
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> >> Herb Brannon
> >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> > Herb Brannon
> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park