[PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 18 10:41:04 EST 2012


 
 
 
what about a break-down??  Where do you send a replacement car, and how do you handle repair of the breakdown??  And how fast did you send the break-down back to its 'home'?
 
In Chicago, if a bus from 77th St. broke down on the north end of Western, Kedzie-Homen, or Damen then the replacement and mechanic came from North Park.  The bus from 77th would be towed to North Park for repair.  And the reverse would happen if a North Park bus broke down on southside - 77th would handle repairs.  Sometimes we would encounter  an older southside bus on one of our North Park runs.  Other times a driver could pick up a couple hours of overtime shuttling a newer 77th bus back to 77th and returning the replacement North Park bus to North Park.  (I had splits my first summer, and would ask dispatch after finishing if there were any buses needing shuttled - and usually got a couple extra hours several times a week)  The newer GMC 'new looks' always seemed to be returned to 77th, but the older Twins and Flxibles apparently could float a bit around the system for awhile.
 
 
 

 

> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:46:33 -0800
> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> 
> Current comments below, please
> 
> 
>  From: Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> 
> To: "pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:05 AM
> Subject: Re: 4393 Versus 4366
> 
> 
> Mr.Schneider;
> snipped
> 
> 
> Equipment apparently moved more frequently than one would assume.  "Maybe"
> heavy overhaul is 'a' reason.  A car sent to Homewood for same would immediately
> be replaced by another car.  This seems logical.  How often were heavy
> overhauls?
>  
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:25 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4393 Versus 4366
> 
> Heavy
> overhauls were mileage based beginning in the depression.
> You tell me
> how many miles were accumulated on a car?
> And once we got into the 
> 1950s and the money was running out,
> a lot of the work was done in car 
> houses instead of sending cars to Homewood.  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> Mr.Schneider,
> 
> May we approach this from a different perspective?  These comments concern
> "Only DE-Low-Floor Cars" -- not PCCs, not any SE car, not any "M" car.
> 
> From the Jan-1952 roster we know that DE-car 4393 is at Glenwood don't we.
> With so few DE cars in service the need to keep them segregated in groups
> has almost or has evaporated hasn't it.  Prc tried to keep as much equipment
> active as possible; this is just another way of saying Prc didn't want its equipment
> sitting idle isn't it.  "Let's assume" car 4393 is ready for its Homewood overhaul.
> In light of these statements a Glenwood hostler takes 4393 to Homewood and
> within hours returns to Glenwood with 43AA.
> 
> A week or so later, Keating 43BB needs an Homewood overhaul so the car is
> taken over; the same day the hostler returns to Keating with now overhauled 4393.
> 
> This is a logical "possibility" isn't it.  We are searching for reasons that a low-floor
> car would be moved aren't we.  What are other reasons which might account for
> moving equipment?  This could involve more than just DE-cars.
> 
> Another possibility -- Millvale closed in 1952 didn't it; equipment had to be shifted.
> This certainly affects the main revenue group -- PCCs -- but low-floor cars need moved
> as well.  Need for DE cars was minimal; I don't see this as a reason to switch barns for
> all DE cars but it is "possible" isn't it.
> 
> 
> My apologies for asking about frequency of heavy overhauls; this masked the real
> purpose of my comment.
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
 		 	   		  



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