[PRCo] Re: Route 40 1700's

[Bob Rathke]

I was on the August, 1958 NMRA trip , and don't recall hearing about any problems with the 1200 or 1700 on Mt. Washingto n  that night. 



The route and equipment for the trip was kept a secret from NMRA members until they left the convention banquet that Saturday night and found a long string of trolleys outside the William Penn Hotel on Grant St.  waiting for them to board.  Rege Cordic was guest speaker at the banquet.   



Bob 



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From: "Derrick Brashear" <shadow at gmail.com> 
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:51:16 AM 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Route 40 1700's 

> Pat is a whole other organization.  Lower level employees would proceed 
> as they had under Prc but upper management was drastically different 
> wasn't it.  Their policies were not at all favorable to rail; they balk at rail 
> to this day don't they. 

Rail is more expensive (but more efficient for more people)... but 
they're having trouble rounding 
up enough more people to move. 

> I spent the better part of the last couple days searching the archives for this 
> information.  What I found is a retelling of the story; I can't seem to find the 
> original document.  This document was quite plain:  engineering and the 
> shop banned the 12s and 17s from the 40-line (most likely the 21-line as 
> well.) 

what are you looking for? I have 2 tools you probably don't. 
1 is a complete copy of the list in gmail, which can be searched easily. 
2 is a complete copy on local disk of a machine where i can run 
"grep", which is a powerful 
unix search tool. 

> The RR convention of 1958 apparently changed that; a car of each series 
> was used for a charter onto Grandview Avenue.  Whether or not this was 
> considered 'successful' in testing these two series is unknown but it is 
> possible the ban was relaxed.  This archive post only mentions the 12s; 
> I found the one mentioning the 17s but can't find the Url: 
> http://lists.dementix.org/mlist/pittsburgh-railways/1999-10/msg00009.html 

Jim Holland might have more info, from reading that. Sadly he asked me 
some time ago to unsubscribe him. 



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Derrick