[PRCo] Re: Making sense of the PRC assignments....

[Dwight Long]

Fred

And for the time that 50 was based at Kraft Avenue, it would be simple to 
feed cars onto it using Rt. 54, wouldn't it?  I would assume that route 
would have been used for AM feed-ons, and that cars for the PM rush would 
have fed on at Diamond and Grant. (Don't have the map with me but assume 
there was a curve there to permit that?)

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:34 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Making sense of the PRC assignments....


> Are you making a sweeping generalization Phillip?   :<)
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> Why would they a carbarn at 30th and Carson Streets if route 50 didn't use 
> it?   Doesn't make sense does it?
>
> January 8, 1928 moved from 30th St., when the barn closed, to Craft 
> Avenue.
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> July 5, 1928, 30th and Carson reopened.
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> April 3, 1933 restored to Craft Avenue
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> At some time after the route card posting ceased, it became a Tunnel 
> Route.
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> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
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>> Mr.Long,
>> The 50-line was based at Craft.  The first curve from tunnel to E.Carson
>> is there; the 2nd curve wasn't built until the 2-curves from W.Carson
>> were built.
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>> I am attaching a picture of 1201 again to this email.  You shall NOT 
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>> Please note total absence of tracks to and from W.Carson.
>> Look at the car stop sign immediately above 1201.  In the same span is
>> the frog to turn to E.Carson.  It is a little difficult to see the track 
>> but it
>> is there.
>>
>>
>> Phil
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:47 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Making sense of the PRC assignments....
>>
>> Phil (sent from my portable computer)
>>
>> AIR, there were double curves between East Carson and the tunnel. 
>> However,
>> I don't have my maps with me here so I can't verify that.  But if not, 
>> how
>> would cars coming off route on 50 get to the car house?
>>
>> I'll take another look at the map later, but I think you are right about 
>> the
>> lack of a straight through track on Carson.  There would be no need for 
>> it.
>> I think I made an error there--with respect to calling it a Grand Union.
>>
>> With respect to cars signed 23 on any part of the South Hills downtown
>> loops, that fact is not dispositive.  23 may or may not have been 
>> rerouted
>> to use one of the South Hills loops.  I know nothing of this, but that 
>> does
>> not mean it did not happen.  In my day it always used the West End 
>> downtown
>> loop.  Assuming the base cars always did so, the cars to which you 
>> referred
>> could just be feed on or feed off runs and not base trips.
>>
>> We would need access to route guides or old timetables from Way Back to 
>> sort
>> all this out.  And it all assumes that the curves between the tunnel and
>> West Carson are some latter day installation.  In my day they were always
>> there, and their use would be the logical way to feed cars based at 
>> Tunnel
>> Car House on and off Rt. 23.
>>
>> Dwight
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