[PRCo] Re: February 10, 1978

[Fred Schneider]

Car side elevation is a Cincinnati curved side lightweight ... note the Cincinnati arch-bar trucks and the cast steel anti-climbers.    It is very close to the four Indianapolis and Southeastern cars which came to Lehigh Valley Transit second hand in 1939 for Easton Limited Service (1100-1103).   One of them later ran on Speedrail (their 66).

Intriguing how often the industry people do not know how to define catenary.


On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>> I noticed it looked similar to either a Cincinnati & Lake Erie or Indiana
>> Railroad high-speed lightweight interurban on the closed side. I guess the
>> NTSB just picked a "generic" car for the purpose of the diagram.
> 
> I would have guessed they reused the whole diagram from another accident.
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:23, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The drawing on page 12 is not a Pittsburgh car. So what accident was that
>>> from?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>>>> I have had a copy of the NTSB investigation into the collision of
>>> PATranst
>>>> PCC 1790 and bus 2413, on the morning of February 10, 1978, and would
>>> like
>>>> to share it.
>>>> I was working the 35-Library and was probably inbound somewhere between
>>>> Washington Jct and Castle Shannon Municipal Building when the accident
>>>> actually occurred. By the time I reached Frederick Street and all the
>>> way,
>>>> inbound, through the single track to Boggs it was slow going and waiting
>>>> for lots of red signals. Cars were barely moving either direction do to
>>> the
>>>> emergency activity at SHJct, involving Police, Fire, EMS, PATransit
>>>> responders and bystanders, effectively shutting down the junction. I did
>>>> not know this until later. My first notion that something "big" had
>>>> happened was when I saw 42 and 42/38 cars coming outbound on the 35/36/37
>>>> tracks. Slowdowns were an almost daily occurrence on the rail system back
>>>> then usually do to malfunctioning signals or crippled cars, however, this
>>>> had now consumed time well beyond the usual break down or malfunction.
>>>> Finally, while sitting near Boggs an outbound operator stopped and
>>> quickly
>>>> mentioned to me that there had been a serious accident but gave no
>>> details.
>>>> When I rounded the curve, above the 42/38 tracks and looking down on Palm
>>>> Garden, I saw an unreal sight. The "transitway" in the Palm Garden area
>>> and
>>>> all around it was filled with emergency vehicles and people. Later, after
>>>> returning from downtown, I found out the extent of the incident.
>>>> 
>>>> The attached report is a .pdf file to be opened with Adobe Reader. There
>>>> are some good diagrams included in the report. Hopefully, the List Server
>>>> will retain the .pdf file as a link. If it doesn't, email me and I can
>>> send
>>>> a copy to you through regular email.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Herb Brannon
>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>>>> 
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>>> --
>>> Derrick
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>> --
>> Herb Brannon
>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> Derrick
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