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[Dwight Long]

Herb

Without disputing any of your other points, I would just comment that as low 
as Cleveland fell, it never reached the depths that Detroit did.

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: East Broad Top Railroad won't run this summer | News | 
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> Phillip,
> I liken Cleveland and Northeastern Ohio to the Lady GaGa tune entitled,
> "Hanging On The Edge Of Glory". It had gone as far down as any city could
> go. There was no place to go but up. Then, through better management of 
> the
> city, creation of a "Mayor-Manager-Council" form of government for 
> Cuyahoga
> County, imprisonment of many former city and county blowhards who were
> nothing more than common thieves,  rebuilding of former crime ridden
> neighborhoods into livable communities with something more than 
> rectangular
> boxes for living spaces, public welfare reform, and many public-private
> building projects the city is sitting on the edge of a boom which should
> bring Cleveland close to the importance, in the realm of American cities,
> it enjoyed in the 1945-1955 era.
> Just last Monday the Horseshoe Casino opened, on Public Square, in the
> former Higbee Department Store building. Just this past Friday the
> Horseshoe took in more money than all but one other casino in the entire
> United States. Yes, that's every other U.S. casino except one in Las 
> Vegas.
> The average waiting time to get into the gaming floor is about three 
> hours.
>
> To check out the projects under construction in Cleveland, check out this
> website:::
> :Current Cleveland
> Projects<http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=97396>.
> Also, be sure to watch the 3minute41second video at the top of the
> website before you scroll down through the projects. The video was 
> produced
> by the Cleveland Downtown Alliance and is really good.
>
> Derrick,
> You mentioned the "three C's" (Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati). Don't
> forget that only Cleveland has electrical transportation. My main concern
> about the other two Cs is the hold that the far-right politicos have on
> them. Cleveland is very much like Pittsburgh politically and socially. The
> steel mills even still exist in great numbers in Cleveland.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Phillip Clark Campbell
>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > This is a very impressive resume of the CVSR Mr.Brannon.  It is
>> > very much in line with the current Cleveland transit system.  They seem
>> > to not only counter trends in other cities where massive cutbacks are
>> > the rule but Cleveland and Ohio are growing.  They seem to be
>> > systems to emulate.
>>
>> Cleveland, yes. Ohio? Well, it seems like transit in Ohio is all the 3
>> Cs (basically, the places I'd be willing to live)
>> and the rest of it is "hey, can we put another road to some new
>> suburban development?"
>>
>> Pittsburgh is supposed to have an intense rivalry with Cleveland (and
>> Cincinnati at least in football) but I see them
>> as very similar places, places I'd feel at home much like here.
>>
>> --
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>
>
>