[PRCo] Re: PRCo Photo Wiki?

[Jim Keener]

I'm sorry you're missing the idea of personal liberty and freedom. The internet was designed to share information, yes. It's an invaluable tool that doesn't change copyright ownership nor forces you to use it.
I don't understand why you feel the need to force your viewpoint on other people. I disagree with his stance, and have corrected the portion of his argument that is flawed.

That doesn't change the fact that he doesn't want to share and risk losing control over his photos. That is a valid concern.

Jim
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Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz> wrote:

The main purpose of the internet is to share information and is primarily 
for the public, not to share foolish excuses for not doing so. Sorry, you 
are missing the center of this matter.

BC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Keener" <jimktrains at gmail.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:31 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Photo Wiki?


That's arguably an unfair way to look at it. A photograph is as much art as 
a painting. His vision and knowledge and time went into it.
He has every right to not show just anyone his work.

My only argument is that the internet is not public domain. Copyright exists 
on it, though it does become harder to enforce and easier to copy.

Jim
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Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz> wrote:

That is everyone's decision, however...

All that belongs to the public before you steal it by your camera for
yourself should belong to the public again and the internet is the most
appropriate place to display it.

No discussion!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Photo Wiki?



The one reason I have never posted anything valuable on the internet is
simply that it will forever be lost to me. It becomes public domain. In
otherwords, not interested.


On May 24, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Bob Iannucci wrote:

> All,
> I have appreciated the many photos and stories from this group, and I've
> enjoyed the various
> photo websites showcasing Pittsburgh's rich trolley history. And, of
> course, the PTM is a wonderful
> resource for those who have the opportunity to visit. For me out here on
> the west coast, I am quite
> reliant on the online resources - this group and the websites.
>
> I have repeatedly felt that there is a need for something more, however.
> The various photo websites,
> or at least those that are still online, are fairly static, and only the
> owners can contribute. This group
> is great, but email with attached (or semi-attached) photos makes
> researching hard. I have seen others
> expressing the same thought ("I know it was discussed here a while ago...
> I know there was a photo
> that was posted a while back...").
>
> I imagine something that is just a little more organized than this email
> list, and something that is a little
> more community-maintained than the photo websites. I am thinking of a
> photo wiki, not unlike Wikipedia,
> but devoted specifically to PRCo. Think of one page per photo, with
> commentary from anyone who
> wants to contribute a relevant story. We have had LOTS of good stories in
> this group. But in addition
> to the photo, the photo credit, and the stories, I am thinking that each
> page should also have a way to
> indicate the date of the photo and the location.
>
> This structure offers several advantages. The photo and the related
> stories will live together on a web page
> and can be easily found by search tools. The date and location
> information
> offer the hope that we could provide
> the ability to search by date range and/or by location. Picasa and some
> of
> the other attach-photo-to-location
> sites come close to this ideal. A friend of mine in San Francisco is
> thinking of something similar that
> he calls Pastmapper. So, perhaps there is a way to get this functionality
> using some off-the-shelf technology.
> Or perhaps someone is already at work doing this and I just have not heard
> of it yet.
>
> I'd be willing to host such a site and support the underlying machinery.
> But that alone is not enough.
> In order to be a success, it needs community commitment to generate and
> maintain the content. If the
> more prolific contributors to this group were willing to upload their
> photos and paste in the stories
> that they have written, I feel we would be off to a great start.
>
> So, my question is, what do you think?
>
> Bob
>
>
>