[PRCo] Re: Assorted Photos Off The 'Net
Dwight Long
dwightlong at verizon.net
Wed Nov 14 10:36:40 EST 2012
Phil
Interesting selection. I took a few pix of the demolition of the WPT building in 1954, but this selection is much more comprehensive. I wonder what the folks that have congregated by the river are there for—or discussing!
In the PRC shots, did you note that someone, who does not appear to be a PRC employee, is handling the trolley rope on the shot of 1507 in Oakland? Wonder what that was about! And 1666 seems to have had a bit of a mishap—perhaps that truck hit it?
Thanks for forwarding.
Dwight
From: Phillip Clark Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2012 09:34
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Assorted Photos Off The 'Net
I second your choice, Mr.Long! Both of those buildings are classic
aren't they. Here is a decent shot of the Wabash from one angle:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=wabash;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;back=back1352902480;subview=detail;resnum=82;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpichswp;entryid=x-msp285.b003.f02.i01;viewid=ACCD0180.TIF>
More of the Wabash are here but mostly demolition:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;type=boolean;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;view=thumbnail;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;start=81;q1=wabash;back=back1352902470;size=20>
It seems all these photos have made the rounds before doesn't it;
the university site is home to many. Here are some of the
Diamond Market:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;type=boolean;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;view=thumbnail;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;q1=Diamond;q2=Market;back=back1352902981;size=20;start=1>
Streetcars are latter day additions to much of Diamond aren't
they. Tracks turned to and from Grant initially; I believe it was in
the 1920s when tracks were first extended across Grant, Smithfield,
and Wood to the Market. Tracks are not in evidence in 1921 when
the Market was built are they. Diamond looks rather pristine in
1928 with tracks.
Here are a couple more collections of trolleys and streetcars. It
seems that many other photos are available but not labeled for
these categories nor for Pittsburgy Railways Company. I am
always finding photos with streetcars that do not fit these
collections:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;type=boolean;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;view=thumbnail;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;start=281;q1=trolley;back=back1352902275;size=20>
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;type=boolean;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;view=thumbnail;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;start=61;q1=streetcar;back=back1352902198;size=20>
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?sid=46017d0da922f44c8f50880157b2c73f;rgn1=ic_all;type=boolean;xc=1;g=imls;view=thumbnail;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;start=181;q1=Pittsburgh%20Railways;back=back1352902064;size=20>
A repeat of photos in the collections are common.
Phil
>________________________________
> From: Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:59 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Assorted Photos Off The 'Net
>
>
>Fred
>
>Yes, that is an interesting old fot but I think that the one which shows
>both the Diamond Market and the Wabash Terminal is the gem of the bunch as
>it shows the two Pgh icons. The time frame when this could be done is very
>narrow--from 1949 through late 1953 or perhaps early 1954, as it was in the
>latter year that the Terminal was razed. Might be able to zero in on the
>year by looking closely at autos, but I did not take the time to do that.
>
>Dwight
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:13 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Assorted Photos Off The 'Net
>
>
>> The real gem is the first one … the picture of the rear of the 4000
>> (Brill 1909) on one of the Highland Park lines probably around 1920. I
>> printed it but I still cannot read the street name behind the tree above
>> the man. I drove my Google-Mobile over all the logical streets and I
>> cannot locate those buildings … i.e. Highland, Negley, Centre, lower
>> Fifth, lower Forbes. I know the caption reads 5th Avenue but South
>> Highland ran via Forbes so my first instinct was to try all sorts of
>> combinations. Nothing works today because too many buildings have been
>> torn down. I would relish having a 110 year old geezer tell me, "I know
>> where it is … I lived there." Unfortunately a lot of the heart of East
>> Liberty was been demolished by Urban Ruinall. Lower Forbes was wiped out
>> by the Crosstown Expressway and the Boulevard of the Allies. Many of the
>> homes on very lower Herron Hill disappeared in the Civic Arena project.
>> Since then the next mile has had many of the old homes r!
>> eplaced by newer ones. And farther out Centre more than half the
>> buildings simply disappeared …looks like Euclid Avenue in Cleveland. The
>> hill does feel right for lower Forbes or lower 5th, however; it's just
>> that the buildings are there today.
>>
>> And guys, how would you like to carry that suitcase (sitting on the curb)
>> filled with glass plate holders when you go out to take pictures? And
>> the tripod? And a 4x5 or 8x10 view camera and several lenses and
>> lensboards? A dozen years ago I bought a 4x5 view camera and then built
>> a wooden case to hold it and all the trappings … weighs a ton. I think
>> by the time I was done it had cost me close to $100 for every picture I
>> took before I gave up the experiment. My wife is using the case as a
>> table to hold a lamp in the back bedroom. And if I wanted to use it,
>> where the hell would I get fil-em today? Kodak quit making all the good
>> stuff like TriX and SuperpanchroPress B and PlusX.
>>
>> The second one is the Brookline loop.
>>
>> The third would be Tunnel Yard during the Deiselheimer Era. For those who
>> don't know that moniker, there were a number of Electric Railroaders
>> Association members who applied it to Harold G because he worked for a bus
>> company.
>>
>> The fourth looks up Diamond Alley from Liberty. You don't get it? Well
>> they changed the name from Diamond Alley to Diamond St. to Forbes Avenue
>> but the city fathers never actually widened that street. The building on
>> the right with the Corinthian Columns is the Wabash Terminal. Judging by
>> the automobiles and the presence of a 1700, its after the fire that
>> destroyed the trainshed and before the redevelopment in the Point.
>>
>> And the last one was taken when route 56 was the only carline left in
>> McKeesport. McKeesport was one of the worst hurt of the suburban towns
>> first because the United Steel Workers employes got wages high enough to
>> get out of that smog infested valley and move to the suburbs and drive to
>> work in their new cars, and then because those higher wages were more than
>> foreign steel workers were paying, steel simply collapsed. McKeesport's
>> population peaked in1940at 55,355. In 1930, with a cluster of West Penn
>> and Pittsburgh Railways carlines, it had almost 55,000 people. But then
>> after the war people began to leave for the suburbs. The 2010 census
>> showed only 17,731 left … it had dropped 18% since 2000. Wikipedia has a
>> fairly decent description of the town and they actually included the last
>> 160 years of population data in one of the most recent changes.
>>
>>Â Â http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKeesport,_Pennsylvania
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone has anything to add concerning location, photographer, etc.,
>>> have
>>> at it. These I found during random searches of the Internet. I don't
>>> remember these being shown before on The List, however, they may have
>>> been.
>>> --
>>> Herb Brannon
>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
>>>
>>> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PRCoStreetcar5thAve.jpg
>>>
>>> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PRCoPCC1607.jpg
>>>
>>> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PRCoPCC%20Transitway.jpg
>>>
>>> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PRCoPCCDiamondMkt.jpg
>>>
>>> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PRCoPCCMcKeesport.jpg
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