[PRCo] Re: Fwd: PENNSYLVANIA TROLLEY PHOTO ARCHIVE 3
Richard Allman
allmanr at verizon.net
Mon Oct 15 23:18:45 EDT 2012
one correction-the LVT shot @ 69th Street had to be sometime between 1946
when the 700 cars were repainted in the picador cream mountain ash scarlet
scheme and April 1949, after which Liberty Bell passenger service was no
longer through routed to 69th Street. From April 1949 until the line's
abandonment in September, 1951, the Liberty Bell cars ran from Allentown to
Norristown, where through passengers needed to transfer to P&W cars.
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From: "Derrick Brashear" <shadow at gmail.com>
To: "Pittsburgh Railways Group" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Fwd: PENNSYLVANIA TROLLEY PHOTO ARCHIVE 3
> *From: *"Frank Pfuhler" <pfuhler at msn.com>
> *Date: *October 15, 2012 11:39:39 AM EDT
> *Subject: **Fw: PENNSYLVANIA TROLLEY PHOTO ARCHIVE 3*
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
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> Comments from Fred Schneider
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> Frank
>
> More if you want to resend.
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> *From: *"Frank Pfuhler" <pfuhler at msn.com>
> *Date: *October 13, 2012 9:23:31 PM EDT
> *To: *"Frank Pfuhler" <pfuhler at msn.com>
> *Subject: **Re: PENNSYLVANIA TROLLEY PHOTO ARCHIVE 3*
>
> PENNSYLVANIA TROLLEY PHOTO ARCHIVE 3
>
>
> FRANK
>
>
> Looking off the end of the P&W station platforms at 69th Street Terminal
> in
> Upper Darby Township, Delaware County, PA, about 1951, we see one
> of the three remaining 700 series cars of the Lehigh Valley Transit
> Company
> in the pocket Track. Off to the right are five of the 1907 Market Street
> subway cars and farthest from the camera, one of the 1926 Frankford
> Elevated cars. These lasted until the Budd order of "Almond Joy" cars
> arrived in 1960, so named because the vents on the roof remind one of a
> candy bar. A Pennsylvania Railroad branch also terminated in the subway
> yard.
>
>
> Fairmount Park Transit Co. ordered all its cars when the line opened in
> 1896 and retired them 50 years later when it shut
> down. There was one Brill order in June 1896 for 50 open cars and one
> for
> 10 closed cars. They were followed a few
> weeks later by two more orders, each for 5 closed cars. The company also
> bought a sprinkler car and a line car in 1897.
>
> Location . same as the next picture.
>
> One can only speculate that had the war not intervened, this might have
> disappeared a few years sooner instead of at the
> end of the park season on Monday September 9, 1946.
>
> Woodland (amusement) Park, which had been a subsidiary of the trolley
> company, remained until 1955.
>
>
> Both this image and the one before it were taken at the 44th and Parkside
> Avenue loop in Philadelphia. The 1876 Centennial Exposition,
> the first world's fair in the United States, was celebrated in the field
> behind the train. I have no idea who took this but I have an identical
> 8x10 in my file with no identification on it. However, presence of the
> Navy chap on shore leave on the 8th bench of the first car suggests
> World War II.
>
>
>
> The weeds suggest that this might be after the September 1946 abandonment.
> It is outside the "Belmont
> Car House" in Fairmount Park. The car house exist today to store city
> parks department machinery.
> Drivers on the Schuylkill Expressway (Surekill Crawlway) pass right by the
> back end of the building.
>
>
>
>
> Pittsburgh Railways adopted the orange paint scheme in the mid 1920s. I
> have checked with Ed Lybarger at the trolley museum who admits
> he has seen this picture but has knows nothing of the accident. It
> repainted in orange Feb. 7. 1929. Less than two years later, on
> July 27, 1931, it was painted again and that might not be something you do
> for cars used only in the rush hour unless that was when the
> accident took place. There was an accident in the Pittsburgh Press in
> July 22, 1930 involving a 4100 but the damage doesn't match. I have
> not found anything else and I wasted a whole day hunting.
>
> These were the last high floor cars built for Pittsburgh; the 50 cars
> (4100-4149) came from Pressed Steel Car Co. in 1909. All were fitted
> with K-43 control which permitted six motors to be operated. Why six?
> Four on the motor car and two on the trailer behind it. Yes, not
> really a trailer and not really an MU train either. The motor car has
> Westinghouse 306 motors rated at 60 hp (a PCC has 55 hp motors)
> so it will step out. It is about the same as a New Orleans 900 with
> twice the horsepower!
>
> These were rear-entrance, front exit, two-man cars. As Pittsburgh was
> one
> of the earliest properties in the nation to convert to one-man cars,
> these cars were not particularly adored by the 1920s and by the late 1920s
> were relegated to rush hours only. The last instance of trailer
> operation I can find in the company route cards happened in 1937 out of
> both Ingram Car House and Avalon Yard using these cars and
> then only in rush hours. By the way, I checked the annotations on the
> cards against the man hours . sometimes the hours actually dropped
> without any mention of the conductors disappearing but then you know that
> the second man had disappeared. By the time the third PCC
> order arrived, there were no conductors left in Pittsburgh (that would be
> the 1100s in 1937; the first order was only one car).
>
> After 1937 some 4000s and 4100s were converted to snow plows and tow cars.
> One of them, 4115, was rebuilt by Ed Blossom of Magee
> Museum fame, then found its way to Cleveland, and a two years ago it
> migrated to the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum.
>
>
>
> Philadelphia's initial PCC order in the original aluminum, cream and blue
> livery. The photo is on Carpenter Lane just east of Wayne
> Avenue in Germantown, Pa., November, 1939. If you look at this area in
> Google maps, you should not fail to observe that
> Philadelphia Rapid Transit was trying to put its shiny new PCC cars where
> they would do the most political good. The houses in this
> neighborhood were some of the most expensive in any of the neighborhoods
> serviced by PRT at that time. The house and the garage
> here are sort of an anomaly for the area . they look dumpy compared to
> everything around them for miles.
>
>
> http://maps.google.com/
>
>
> Same type car as Altoona 51 in the previous group of pictures.
> Osgood-Bradley made 21 of them in 1925-26. If my memory is working
> properly, Frank, these were retired when the Nay Aug and Petersburg lines
> quit running in 1953. This particular car was retired in 1952.
> The photograph is in front of the carbarn on Providence Road, probably in
> the 1940s judging by the more complete track and wirework
> than existed closer to the end of service.
>
>
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