[PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Tue Sep 25 18:50:33 EDT 2012


Bob

The other vehicles in the fot clearly rule out it's being the 20s.  Plus I 
don't think 4399 would be as ratty back then!

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?


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> When I saw the trolley photo, my first thought was: I didn't know that 
> aluminum guard rail was used as long ago as the 1920's.
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> Bob
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:21:30 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
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> Looks like a "Photoshopped" pic to me.
> Look at the railing on the bridge the trolley is operating. That is the
> type of railing used from the late 1940s to the present day.
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> Look at the streetlamp behind the trolley. It is definitely a Pittsburgh
> lamp of  a more modern era.
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> Look around both trolley poles of the streetcar. Close inspection shows 
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> area where the original photo was blended in with what looks like Second
> Avenue track near downtown.
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> What appears to be Brady St Bridge is in the background.
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> Looks fake to me.
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> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM, John Swindler 
> <j_swindler at hotmail.com>wrote:
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>> Â Â I don't see a motorman??????? Could this be a staged photo - like 
>> maybe
>> fantrip?????? Â Disregarding the destination signs, the first impression
>> was Second Ave. near Tenth St. bridge. Â But I have no faith in this 
>> first
>> impression. Â So back to Charleroi area. John
>> Â > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:59:03 -0700
>> > From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
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>> > Mr.Brashear,
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>> > This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it. Â We know
>> > the only place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown
>> > Pittsburgh isn't it. Â Thus the car is apparently heading south rather
>> > than north.
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>> > Is it near Monongahela City? Â A bridge over a tributary is at Black
>> > Diamond Jct; double track leads to the Jct. Â But this does not seem
>> > to fit. Â It appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side 
>> > suggests
>> > this. Â It also seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>> > The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>> >
>> > It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway
>> > in the distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that
>> > distance. Â I am looking for evidence of single track.
>> >
>> > If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and
>> > return not the Donora car. Â I can not detect the motorman at the
>> > controller. Â Did the car stop and pose for this picture? Â Do 
>> > schedules
>> > reveal a run or train "86"?
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>> > If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river
>> > from Mongahela south. Â Does it fit any other location?
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>> >
>> > Phil
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>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>> > >To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>> > >Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
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>> > >Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was
>> > >always on the other side, only, and
>> > >thus the caption is incorrect?
>> > >
>> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
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>> > >-- 
>> > >Derrick
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> Herb Brannon
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