[PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Fri Sep 28 13:04:49 EDT 2012


Do you understand dirt or scratches on a negative?



On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:

> Then kindly explain the trolley pole and hangar. There is another photo in
> there.
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>wrote:
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>> Ed
>> 
>> Bravo!
>> 
>> This is one where the answer is right before one=E2=80=99s face, but too =
>> obscured to see it!  I was on that trip, and took extensive fots,  =
>> INCLUDING ONE AT THAT LOCATION, which is MIA, as are the negatives.  But =
>> to add support to your answer, here is a shot of 4398 on that trip but =
>> with a Finleyville top sign up=E2=80=94this taken on the Union Avenue =
>> spur on the North Side.
>> 
>> What threw me, and perhaps others, off is that the reproduction is so =
>> poor that we misread the car number, I as 4399 and someone else as 4333, =
>> both of which are reasonable interpretations of what can be seen in the =
>> posted fot.  I should have gone back into my records=E2=80=94the answer =
>> would have popped up from them.  Not the first time I=E2=80=99ve been =
>> led down the primrose path by one little errant =E2=80=9Cfact.=E2=80=9D
>> 
>> Thanks for your help in resolving this once and for all.  Sorry, Herb!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dwight
>> 
>> From: Edward H. Lybarger=20
>> Sent: Friday, 28 September, 2012 08:55
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org=20
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> Sorry, I've been away and am not up to date on emails (nor have I begun =
>> to
>> read the new book, copy of which I obtained Monday).  This photo is =
>> exactly
>> where the caption says it is.  The car was operating in fantrip service =
>> on
>> June 12, 1955.  The signs are absolutely meaningless here.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of =
>> Phillip
>> Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> 
>> Mr.Brashear,
>> 
>> This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it.  We know the =
>> only
>> place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown Pittsburgh
>> isn't it.  Thus the car is apparently heading south rather than north.
>> 
>> Is it near Monongahela City?  A bridge over a tributary is at Black =
>> Diamond
>> Jct; double track leads to the Jct.  But this does not seem to fit.  It
>> appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side suggests this.  It =
>> also
>> seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>> The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>> 
>> It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway in =
>> the
>> distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that =
>> distance.=20
>> I am looking for evidence of single track.
>> 
>> If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and =
>> return
>> not the Donora car.  I can not detect the motorman at the controller.  =
>> Did
>> the car stop and pose for this picture?  Do schedules reveal a run or =
>> train
>> "86"?
>> 
>> If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river from
>> Mongahela south.  Does it fit any other location?
>> 
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>> To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>>> =20
>>> Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was=20
>>> always on the other side, only, and thus the caption is incorrect?
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Derrick
>>> 
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> -- 
> Herb Brannon
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