[PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Art is the only one left since Bowker's passing last month.

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From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
Long
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:32 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location

Fred

The late George Tucker was PTM (then PERC) member # 4, the first to join
after the founding of the then "Club" by Bartley, Brown, and Galbraith.

I believe Art Ellis is the sole surviving member with a single digit (#5)
membership number.

Dwight

From: Fred Schneider
Sent: Friday, 28 September, 2012 13:03
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location
Ed and I just had a telephone discussion about the picture.   The automobile
may be George Tucker's father's 1924 or 1925 Chrysler, which matches photos
in a car book I have open in front of me.  Tucker had several cars and gave
his own Model T Ford to PTM . it rests today in the Trolley Display
Building.   


On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Lybarger,
> The current picture title is not the original is it.  The original 
> stated this car was "in Belle Vernon northbound" on Route 906(?)  A 
> couple people wrote to the poster after discussion here and he 
> immediately changed the title.
> 
> It also appears to be a double exposure--on enlarging a third trolley 
> pole and overhead hanger floating in space are quite visible.  This 
> may account for the strange dark sky within the triangle formed by the 
> front trolley pole and rope.
> 
> 
> Do you know anything more about this charter?  It does not appear to 
> be an early museum charter.
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:55 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> 
>> Sorry, I've been away and am not up to date on emails (nor have I 
>> begun to read the new book, copy of which I obtained Monday).  This 
>> photo is exactly where the caption says it is.  The car was operating 
>> in fantrip service on June 12, 1955.  The signs are absolutely
meaningless here.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> 
>> Mr.Brashear,
>> 
>> This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it.  We know 
>> the only place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown 
>> Pittsburgh isn't it.  Thus the car is apparently heading south rather
than north.
>> 
>> Is it near Monongahela City?  A bridge over a tributary is at Black 
>> Diamond Jct; double track leads to the Jct.  But this does not seem 
>> to fit.  It appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side 
>> suggests this.  It also seems rather new construction; paving is new as
well.
>> The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>> 
>> It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway 
>> in the distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that
distance.
>> I am looking for evidence of single track.
>> 
>> If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and 
>> return not the Donora car.  I can not detect the motorman at the 
>> controller.  Did the car stop and pose for this picture?  Do 
>> schedules reveal a run or train "86"?
>> 
>> If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river 
>> from Mongahela south.  Does it fit any other location?
>> 
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>> To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>>> 
>>> Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was 
>>> always on the other side, only, and thus the caption is incorrect?
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Derrick
>> 
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