[PRCo] Regent Square memories

[PC]

Thank You Mr.Swindler, and Mr.Lybarger.  Your emails deal with specific issues and make much sense.
Other emails did not even qualify as fog did they.


PC



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On Sun, 12/8/13, John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [PRCo] Regent Square memories
 To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
 Date: Sunday, December 8, 2013, 4:48 PM
 
  
  
 The answer is a lot simpler, Fred.   
  
 Braddock Ave. is not on its original alignment.  
  
 >From intersection of Monongahela and Braddock, Braddock
 was 'straightened'  several hundred feet to east as
 part of Penn Lincoln Parkway construction early 1950s. 
 It eliminated a "S" curve coming down a hillside.
  
 And the PERC map is correct - there was no loop.  The
 dashed lines are showing original alignment of Braddock
 Ave., 
  
 And Monongahela Ave. was NOT moved.  It is on its
 original alignment from Whipple to Braddock.  
  
 The brick street with rails is the original Braddock Ave.,
 and the photo shows where it curved towards intersection of
 Braddock and Monongahela Ave.  The Parkway construction
 also included moving houses on Greendale to north to provide
 an off ramp from parkway to Greendale.
  
 Was there a bridge over Nine Mile Run??  Don't know, as
 I wasn't delivering the Post Gazette morning paper in this
 area until 1956.  But a culvert would have sufficed for
 this stream.
  
 Also, Fred, concur with your identifying photo location as
 Swissvale.  We considered Regent Square as top of hill
 vicinity of Braddock/Hutchison, near Regent Square
 theater.  It's not a separate municipality, but an area
 straddling the City of Pittsburgh boundary.  Don't know
 if it was restricted to residential area within
 Pittsburgh.  Never thought to ask or investigate. 
  
 Here's the 'new' Braddock Ave. at Greendale.  The
 original Braddock Ave. in this location would have gone
 under the earth fill to right.
  
  
    
 Also, encountered a similar Williamsburg docent.  He
 was 'playing' Thomas Jefferson the day we were there several
 years ago with one of our German exchange students.  He
 asked the same question, and generally got the same
 response.  I liked it.  To quote a Yorktown park
 ranger, "you can O.D. on history in this area".
  
 As for journey times, it took seventeen days to travel from
 Dayton area to Livingston Co., Illinois in the 1840s. 
 It's mentioned in a distant cousins obit. 
  
 Also, it is trying to rewrite history to again claim that
 there was nothing west of the mountains in the 1770s except
 fur traders and Indians.  While both English and French
 fur traders were in the area a generation earlier, permanent
 settlements accelerated after the French and Indian War
 (Seven Years War), with many from Virginia, including my
 ancestors.  Competing claims was part of Lord Dunmore's
 War between the Commonwealth's of Pennsylvania and of
 Virginia around 1770 (mostly involving legal
 representatives).  See page 38 of Centennial History of
 Pittsburgh.  
  
 http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=pitttext;cc=pitttext;g=pitttextall;xc=1;q1=history%20of%20allegheny%20county;idno=00aee8946m;rgn=full%20text;didno=00aee8946m;view=image;seq=38;node=00aee8946m%3A1.7;page=root;size=s;frm=frameset;
  
  
 As for snow, it was sunny and dry highway over route 22
 until Harrisburg around 1pm.  Snow flurries contributed
 to several accidents on 283 near Middletown, but worst was
 Mt. Joy to 222/30 split.  Quickly lost count of
 accidents.  The auto repair shops will be doing a brisk
 business next week. 
  
 How many weeks until warmer weather in March???
  


> > On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
 > 
 > > The writer is not doing the finest job of interpreting history in its own
 > > time, is he?
 > > 
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
 > > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org]
 > > On Behalf Of DF Cramer
 > > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:12 AM
 > > To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
 > > Subject: [PRCo] Regent Square memories
 > > 
http://triblive.com/opinion/featuredcommentary/5150950-74/pittsburgh-streetcars-trolleys#axzz2mstNqj9b

 > > The paper must have been looking for filler.
 > > 
 > > Dennis F. Cramer 
 > > http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/


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