[PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????

Lattner, Raymond rlattner at pa.gov
Wed Jul 17 10:51:33 EDT 2013


Try Caruso Bros. on Bower Hill Road just off of Washington. Old Italian Barber.

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From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Herb Brannon
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Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????

I drove to Cleveland last Friday to get my hair cut...........haven't located a barber yet in Pittsburgh who can cut a flat top to my liking.
Then drove to Cuyahoga Falls to the  Mickey Thompson tire company headquarters so they could look at my new tires and explain why there are blemishes on them. They took care to that to my liking and got the "markings" off the tires, especially considering the price of Mickey Thompson light truck tires. Then drove back to Pittsburgh.

Monday and Tuesday a buddy of mine came to visit Pittsburgh. He is a Lead Ramp Agent for American Airlines at Cleveland Hopkins airport so I figured he would fly (free for him) from Cleveland to Pittsburgh. He drove...........he said it wasn't worth all the b.s. involved and he would be here quicker by driving. He has about the same opinion as Derrick as to the way the airlines treat the passengers.

Fred-----what do you mean by "green and red tailings" on the Cleveland streetcars? Also, you had mentioned that you had ridden the "one" remaining "Peter Witt" train on the Shaker Rapid. Must have been a dream.........SHRT had no Peter Witt trains running in 1959, or for that matter in any year.
They had two (2) "Center Entrance" trains which ran during rush hours inbound in the morning and outbound in the evening on the Van Aken line.
The car numbers of these last two (2) (non-PCC) trains were: Train 1, cars 1, 2, 6, 11, & 12 This train had "Cable MU couplers". Train 2, cars 17, 18, 22, 25, & 26 This train had "Button MU couplers". Both trains were officially retired from service on November 2, 1959. They both continued, however, to be put back in revenue service for special events and some rush hour service for several months after that date. Also, car 27 had been retained as a spare but was seldom used. The only real "Peter Witt" cars to be used on SHRT were Cleveland Railway 4050 and 4051 used briefly in 1935.
Also Cleveland Railway articulated Peter Witt 5014 was tested but had a hard time making the tight loop in the Terminal Tower station. Those were the only three actual Peter Witt type cars to run on SHRT.


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Derrick Brashear <shadow at dementix.org>wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Fred Schneider 
> <fwschneider at comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
> > That was one of the points I was making.   Remember the story we did in
> > Headlights on Jim Shuman's week-long vacation in Indiana in the 1938.
> He
> > had to take a week off without pay and the total cost of the trip 
> > was
> about
> > a third of his annual wages in an umbrella factory to ride the 
> > Pennsy to Indianapolis, take the fantrip on the Indiana Railroad, 
> > ride the NYC over to Peoria, look at the Iillinois Terminal and return home.
> >
> > The 1939-1940 "See Both Worlds Fairs for $100" bargain coach ticket 
> > on
> all
> > the US railroads, if adjusted to inflation would be about $1,657 
> > today
> and
> > if you wanted a berth to sleep in, that would be extra.   The dining cars
> > were extra.  Hotels were extra.   Makes you realize how cheap air fares
> are
> > today, doesn't it?   I knew a number of people who availed themselves of
> > that bargain.   John Bowman and Leon Franks went from Lancaster to
> > Washington, then the Southern to New Orleans, SP to Los Angeles, and 
> > because the SD&AE was washed out and they couldn't use the 
> > originally planned route through San Diego, the agent in LAUPT 
> > rewrote the ticket so they could make a roundtrip from LAUPT to San Diego on the Santa Fe.
> Then
> > up the coast to San Francisco, Seattle, back to Chicago on the Milwaukee
> > Road and home on the PRR.   Shuman went to Chicago, met George Krambles
> and
> > Bill Janssen, and went west on the Milwaukee, down to SF on the SP 
> > and
> home
> > on the UP and PRR ... he had to get back to work on the Pennsy.
> Difference
> > was, John was living with family and Shuman was supporting mother 
> > and sister.
> >
> >
> Of course, now you get there if the airlines deign to fly you. And 
> even then the pricing is good only if they think it has to be, and 
> otherwise you get "yield-managed" out of as much as possible.
>
> I have a memory of seeing tan and cream trolleys with green and red
> > tailings in downtown Cleveland and that would have had to have been the
> > summer of 1946 or 1947.   Somewhere in there visiting Niagara Falls for
> the
> > first time and visiting Dad's sister, when she lived in Dayton, fit it.
> >
>
> I drove to Cleveland yesterday for lunch (dim sum, from a cart), 
> shopping (West Side Market), and beer (Great Lakes Brewing). Then 
> drove home and went back to work.
>
>
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