[PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum

Edward H. Lybarger trams2 at comcast.net
Fri Jul 19 14:02:59 EDT 2013


Janis and I ignored the train in Skagway and took the brothel tour instead.
Neither of us regrets the decision.  It's a fascinating town that is largely
intact from 1900 because there never was a major fire.

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:41 PM
To: Western PA Trolley discussion
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum

 
Thanks.  We did the same thing couple years ago in Key West - took the local
bus for trip around the island.  
 
We'll probably 'bite the bullet' in Skagway for White Pass and Yukon - don't
want to encounter a 'sold out' train.
 
 
 

 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:39:14 -0400
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
> 
> Look on the internet John for Capital Transit in Juneau.   You want to get
to Mendenhall Glacier.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendenhall_Glacier
> 
> I think it is something like $30 if you pay the cruise ship company or $2
if you take the local bus.
> 
> 
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:09 PM, John Swindler wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I guess I should have qualified my change in interest - it changed
towards fate of old trolleys from Pennsylvania and the Pittsburgh area -
defining the latter as an extended tri-state region.  We have similar
viewpoints about ----- collections elsewhere.  
> > 
> > Speaking of changed interests - which Alaska town has a transit route to
a glacier with half price for seniors?  That might prove useful next month.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> >> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:41:19 -0400
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In my mind, John, I also questioned whether or not Seashore would have
bothered to regauge Pittsburgh trucks or simply get a pair of standard gauge
B2 trucks from Boston.   The fans would never know.   But I admit to not
wasting my time to see what happened to all the wartime era Boston PCCs.
> >> 
> >> It's one thing to write the book on the subject.   Another thing to
keep one's head so involved in that topic that you miss everything else
going on in the world since 1980.   The answer is, once those books were put
to bed, I went on to other interests.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:51 PM, John Swindler wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> huh, Fred???
> >>> 
> >>> Alan Pegler never had a Royal Scot.  Those were
London-Midland-Scottish 4-6-0 types used on the West Coast main line.  The
first one - #6100 Royal Scot  has been preserved.  
> >>> 
> >>> The "Flying Scotsman" is an  A-3 class London and Northeastern
'pacific' type loco used on the East Coast main line.
> >>> 
> >>> The only similarity is that both made trips to US, but neither you nor
I ever saw the Royal Scot in this country - it's US visit was during 1930s.
> >>> 
> >>> As for PRC 1440, finding this link falls into the category of just
dumb luck.  Any reason Seashore would re-gauge the PRC trucks rather than
use an extra set of Boston PCC trucks????
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> >>>> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:27 -0400
> >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
> >>>> 
> >>>> Here is a link to 1440 on Seashore's web site.
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have no idea what shape it is in today.  Remember when Alan
Pegler's Royal Scot  (4472) was running in the U. S. A?    I think it is
called the Flying Scotsman today and there is a joke on line about renaming
it after the prime minister by simply removing the F from the name.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well, I think that might have been about 1969.   I went up on the
Night Clunker from Philly to Providence and met Bill Middleton (the Navy had
him in Newport, RI then) and we spent the weekend chasing a British steam
engine and riding trolleys at Seashore.   That was the only time I saw 1440
and it looked pretty good them.    I have been up that way one or two times
since but I didn't see it out.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> It was operable at that time.  I presume it still is...can't find a
photo of it -- or most other cars -- on their website.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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