[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

[Herb Brannon]

Canadian cities are just about all on a "metropolitan area" government. No
suburbs, just one big city, hence larger population figures.  Something the
US missed the boat on...............oh dear, such "Thoughts of Socialism"
coming from my mouth.

As far as "crowds boarding buses at every corner", you apparently haven't
been along Brownsville Road, Fifth Avenue, Brighton Road or Forbes and
Murray Avenues in Pittsburgh lately. Same thing every weekday/.


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:

> Ah, but the Canadians live a much more compact live than the people south
> of you.
>
> Up north you don't have this same concept that I'm better than Jose so I
> must live in a 3,000 square foot house on a 3 acre lot in a gated
> community.   Even in small towns you can have bus service which would be
> impossible in the USA because people still live in smaller homes lined up
> along streets.    Maybe it comes from the idea that it costs money to heat
> a 3,000 square foot house so that a 1,000 square foot house using the
> neighbor's property as a wind break is a better deal.
>
> Example, the bus system in your provincial capital hauled 28 million
> riders last year.   That's around 11,000 on a weekday.   BARTA in Reading,
> PA had 3 million.   Both cities have around 80,000 population.   I remember
> standing downtown in Victoria BC in the evening rush hour in 2007 … crowds
> boarding buses at every corner.   Unreal by US standards.
>
> And you guys want a real jolt?   Calgary, Alberta has a population of
> about 1.1 million.   Their total system ridership is about 548,000 fares
> (considering we need to ride in and out every day, that's one out of every
> four Calgarians rides mass transit).  And 285,000 a day are on light rail
> trains!!!!!!   That is the second highest light rail riding in North
> America.   Yeah … go to Montana … middle of no where … turn right and go up
> the front range about 150 miles.
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:42 PM, TEP wrote:
>
> >
> > On 09/11/2013 09:22, Herb Brannon wrote:
> >> ...........
> >> One the cloudy side, why doesn't PATransit try to get money to extend
> some
> >> of the Pittsburgh lines? The PAT management doesn't seem too interested
> in
> >> running a good transit system. Service levels are no where near what
> they
> >> were when I worked at PAT.......
> >>
> >
> > Because capital and operating subsidies come from different pockets. PAT
> > could build all it wants--but have no money to operate any new lines--or
> > the existing lines for that matter.
> >
> > I live in Vancouver. The Urban area is around the same population as
> > Greater Pittsburgh. Our three rail lines carry half a million passengers
> > a day. Peak headways down to four and six car trains every ninety
> > seconds. Service at least every five minutes until 1:15 am. Plus the 5
> > train peak only commuter rail. Use it or lose it.
> >
> > Tom Parkinson
> >
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> > Tom Parkinson P.Eng, Vancouver BC Canada 604-733-5430, cell 604-733-5437
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Herb Brannon
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