[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

[Edward H. Lybarger]

I believe Warrendale is in Allegheny County; I know Cranberry is in Butler
County.  Cranberry has subsumed all of Criders Corners and the some with its
development.  Seven Fields sits east of the Corners on PA 228; I've had no
luck finding out when this borough arose.

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
Dwight Long
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:15 PM
To: Western PA Trolley discussion
Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

Derrick

It all seems to be, at least to a now outsider, referred to as Cranberry
now.

Dwight
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Derrick Brashear 
  To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg


  Warrendale still exists. Cranberry is the township further north, and the
  most built-up area is what was Criders Corners.


  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Dwight Long
<dwightlong at verizon.net>wrote:

  >
  > Ed, Derrick
  >
  > Question related to this discussion.
  >
  > How did this area come to be known as Cranberry?  In my day in the area
it
  > was called Warrendale.
  >
  > What changed?  And why?
  >
  > Dwight
  >
  > From: Edward H. Lybarger
  > Sent: Saturday, 09 November, 2013 09:18
  > To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion'
  > Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
  > Unquestionably.  But who pays, and how do you get south of McKnight
Road?
  > Center of the freeway works most of the way, but the subway connection
  > would
  > be circuitous.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
  > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
  > Derrick Brashear
  > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:41 AM
  > To: Western PA Trolley discussion
  > Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
  >
  > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Edward H. Lybarger
  > <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:
  >
  > > You have to wonder how many other companies nationwide were built,
  > > like the Harmony Route, to satisfy the gigantic ego of the guy behind
  > > it.  It went the long way to Butler (and probably drew just enough
  > > traffic from the Short Line to render it insolvent); New Castle was a
  > > long way off and although it had people, not enough of them wanted to
  > > go to Pittsburgh.  In between was a lot of nothing, plus Evans City
  > > and Ellwood City.  Oh, yes, there was also a nice camping area along
  > > the Connoquenessing that Mr. Boggs favored.  He also favored the most
  > > expensive construction that could be had...only the best.
  > >
  > > Mr. Boggs built the line with the expectation that everyone adjacent
  > > to it would come to his department store.  This just didn't happen.
  > > David McCahill compounded the misery by acquiring the Short Line out
  > > of receivership in about 1919...now he had two companies that couldn't
  > > earn a living, and when the bonds came due, there was no money.  Some
  > > of the bridges sat for years after abandonment because no one could
  > > earn enough in scrap value to justify the labor cost of dismantling
them.
  > >
  > > Just another company that never should have been built.
  > >
  >
  > While today, a fast rail route to at least Cranberry would be fantastic.
  >
  >
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