[PRCo] PRCo Historic Pittsburgh

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Sun Nov 24 21:25:13 EST 2013 

Yes, Ed.     First problem is that the University of Pittsburgh library is a repository for stuff that isn't Pittsburgh.   You have to open it to find out that it is Johnstown.  I admit I fell into that trap.   Then I realized I had stood there and been there.

Looks south on Market Street down the left side of the picture and west along Washington St. on the lower axis.  

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On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Edward Skuchas wrote:

> ANswered my own question.  Had the direction wrong.  The building is now the flood museum.
> 
> Ed S
> On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Edward Skuchas <eskuchas at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> About the fourth photo down is entitled Washington & Market streets.  WHere is that and what is the building on the next corner?  Is it still there?
>> Ed S
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you Phillip !
>>> 
>>> I guess I will refrain from going out to buy sackcloth and ashes to wear
>>> here in what we were told is a dead Pittsburgh. Some people can just never
>>> see the positive side of anything.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:58 AM, PC <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You must look past the first entries in the album Mr.Schneider.  You 'say'
>>>> the economy peaked in 1920 for Johnstown.
>>>> This does not mean it died overnight like pulling the plug to drain a
>>>> bathtub.  Life and vitality goes on.  1920 is a technical
>>>> figure for economists isn't it--a talking point with little application at
>>>> the street level.  These pictures are the 1920s into the
>>>> 1930s revealing life and vibrancy unlike the 1950s which had felt the
>>>> ravages of the depression, WW2, and the steel decline which followed.
>>>> Hardly an overnight sucking dry the health of the city is it.
>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> These present an interesting picture of Johnstown with some life left in
>>>> it.  Please spare us an assessment of each picture, overbuilt // underbilt.
>>>> Hindsight is claimed to be
>>>> perfect isn't it, but "only" because facts are then "allegedly" known.
>>>> 
>>>> Please, get comfortable with The Administration, not to their benefit, but
>>>> to the benefit of the American People.  Give them the benefit of your
>>>> knowledge and experience
>>>> to get the country out of the current quagmire.  Talk here is meaningless.
>>>> 
>>>> Why are you so sad and negative Mr.Schneider?  Americans are the worst
>>>> people in the world as is the nation itself.  Nothing is right about the
>>>> economy, nothing is right about transit,
>>>> nothing is right about Pgh., nothing is right about Lancaster, and the
>>>> list goes on and on and on doesn't it.  One of the facts of life dad never
>>>> mentions is this:  When a person offers
>>>> observations about a topic, most especially when unsolicited, that person
>>>> is describing himself more than the topic isn't he.
>>>> 
>>>> Please: no private emails Mr.Schneider.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Sat, 11/23/13, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Historic Pittsburgh
>>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <
>>>> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
>>>> Date: Saturday, November 23, 2013, 5:09 PM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm chuckling Phillip …
>>>> 
>>>> Not at you but at how easy it is to visualize a city as
>>>> healthy when we didn't know it when it really was
>>>> healthy.   Those pictures were taken in
>>>> 1950-1953.   By 1953 it had lost about 10% of
>>>> its peak population and that means about 10% of its peak
>>>> employment.
>>>> 
>>>> Johnstown peaked in the 1920 census.   It was
>>>> one of those places like Braddock, Homestead and
>>>> Sharpesburg.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, for those of us who remember it from the 1950s
>>>> … ugh.   Today it is down 69% from its 1920
>>>> peak and 63% from the end of streetcars in
>>>> 1960.   The local transit authority today
>>>> hauls a whopping 3,100 riders on a typical weekday in 2013
>>>> …. surprisingly high for a city of its
>>>> size.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> -- 
>>> Herb Brannon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *In Pittsburgh.............................A City AndAnd A State of Mind*
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>>> Let's Go Steelers
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