[PRCo] Still more reading from the Pittsburgh Press

Sun May 18 19:36:05 EDT 2014

Bob

I do not believe the AMTK ersatz Broadway was ever scheduled to run via the B&O's former P&W line from Pittsburgh to Youngstown.  It ran normally via the PRR to Rochester, same as the Capitol, then up the PRR Youngstown line to that city, where it cut over to the B&O.

AFAIK, there has not been any regularly scheduled pax service over the B&O line through Etna and west on the P&W since the discontinuance of the Buffalo Day Express in the latter part of 1955 (BTW it was steam powered til the end).  However, when high water made the B&O's trackage rights over the P&LE untenable, their pax trains did run over the P&W, using the B&O station rather than the P&LE, in Pittsburgh.  I rode one such Capitol in early 1959.

Dwight
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Rathke 
  To: List, Pittsburgh 
  Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] Still more reading from the Pittsburgh Press

  In the late 1980's and 90's there were two Chicago trains: the Capitol Limited via the old PR line along the Ohio River, and the Broadway Limited via the old B&O line (Etna-New Castle-Youngstown). The train names and routes were flipped from the pre-Amtrak routes of the old PRR and B&O flagship train. 

  Also, when the Broadway Limited route was started on the B&O, a crossover track was built under or near the Bloomfield Bridge to allow the train to back into the PRR station, then continue eastbound on the PRR to N.Y. or westbound on the B&O to Youngstown. That crossover is no longer needed since the Capitol Limited is the only Chicago train that now stops in Pittsburgh. 

  ----- Original Message -----

  From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net> 
  To: "List, Pittsburgh" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org> 
  Cc: artwheeler at trolleybuses.net 
  Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:45:34 AM 
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] Still more reading from the Pittsburgh Press 

  Fred 

  Max Solomon told me his father’s company did the actual cutting up of the shed. I remember when it was done. This was interesting because I had no idea how the actual work was done—never thought of that aspect of the project. 

  Dwight 

  From: Fred Schneider 
  Sent: Saturday, 17 May, 2014 22:39 
  To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
  Subject: [PRCo] Still more reading from the Pittsburgh Press 
  Some of you beside me might remember when trains used the Pennsy (Union) Station at Grant and Liberty Streets in Pittsburgh. This story tells us that tearing down the train shed and erecting the individual platform sheds will not delay any of the station's 250 daily trains. Wow. So many commuter trains. And in 17 years they were all gone … all that remained were the long distance trains. And in 24 years it was down to a mobile home and one Chicago train, one always late St. Louis train, and one additional cross Pennsylvania train. But the future was bright in 1947 … here is the story about tearing down the trainshed. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=IysbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3353%2C2398224 

  Bottom of some page … anudder man tries to prove he is stronger than a moving trolley; loses that war. Like the Homestead incident a few days earlier, it was an old man. Maybe hard of hearing or visually challenged???? 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=IysbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4374%2C2403709 

  Five passengers hurt when Frankstown car derails. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JCsbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5987%2C2859649 

  Another crash, same day … one streetcar rear ends another. Sounds like a clear case of pilot error. Slides into the rear of another car while piloting his car up hill???? As one friend of mine would have said, brakes failed to work in the space allocated for them to function. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JCsbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=1608%2C2889962 

  Not trolley … but a nice article on $600 million the railroads were spending to rebuild after the war. Then it for two more days. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JCsbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3812%2C2960178 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JSsbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3783%2C3232435 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JisbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4067%2C3513471 

  Philadelphia Company serves warning that it will appeal if it doesn't get what it wants from the PUC. Two consecutive days of stores on the hearings. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JSsbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5256%2C3090484 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JisbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4576%2C3361655 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JisbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=1584%2C3699688 

  Six at Woodlawn & Southern Bus Co. caught stealing fares. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JisbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4576%2C3361655 

  Several days after the Red Arrow derails on the mountain, a car Pullman breaks loose from a train and rolls free down the mountain. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JysbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4159%2C3980744 

  This is funny as hell … city bill drinking water for a cow in East Liberty that has been dead for six years because the city assessors are so short handed that they haven't visited the property in ten years. 

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JysbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CE0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351%2C3993046 

  AND THIS ENDS FEBRUARY 1947 

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