[PRCo] Fwd: Re: Why was the Drake Loop Built?

[Dwight Long]

My recollection is that Simmons was already built when Charleroi Crumped, and that PRC forces were out there the next day cutting off the main line and cutting in the loop.  I believe this is recorded somewhere--probably in ERA Headlights.

Dwight
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D Brashear 
  To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:12 PM
  Subject: [PRCo] Fwd: Re: Why was the Drake Loop Built?


  Note also this pic from the archive:
  http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/03-Track%20Drake%20Loop%20Construct%201953xxxx%2001.jpg

  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
  Date: Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 7:44 PM
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: Why was the Drake Loop Built?
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org


  Walther Wye opened April 20, 1953.  Simmons Loop opened June 29, 1953 (so
  for nine days all cars turned at (West) Library.  Drake Loop was placed in
  service September 25, 1953.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
  Schneider
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:13 PM
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: Why was the Drake Loop Built?


  I'm not sure if you understand the sequence here Dennis.   PRC built
  a wye at Walther stop in March of 1953 and in April they reduced
  service beyond that wye to every hour.   Service was provided as far
  as Walther (Drake Wye) every 30 minutes.     (At the same schedule
  change, Charleroi cars went to half hourly to West Library Loop at
  hourly beyond West Library.)    Then the loop was constructed under
  the viaduct at Drake stop.   Ed might have the exact date that the
  loop opened but I think it might have been shortly after the August
  29, 1953 abandonment of the Washington service ... perhaps all cars
  turned back at Drake Wye for a brief period.

  I'm also not clear when Simmons loop opened.   I know Charleroi
  service ended in June 1953 and I have a color slide of a Library car
  in the Simmons loop on August 29, 1953. Therefore, if there was a
  period when all cars turned at West Library, it was not for longer
  than two months.

  Write me personally and tell me about that first semester.....

  On Dec 14, 2006, at 4:48 PM, DF Cramer wrote:

  > Does it also not make sense that the company could build a loop and
  > keep
  > other service going at the same time?When it was time to cutback
  > service,
  > the loop was already in place and ready to be utilized.
  >
  > Yes, I am home and the first semester of school is complete.
  >
  > Dennis F. Cramer
  > Teacher-Trombonist-Historian-Conductor
  > http://www.geocities.com/df_cramer
  >
  >
  >








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